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Post by BAYERN_MUNICH Mon Oct 26, 2015 11:36 am

We already have a few of them in Ribery,Robben, Costa and Coman.

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Post by free_cat Mon Oct 26, 2015 11:50 am

BAYERN_MUNICH wrote:We already have a few of them in Ribery,Robben, Costa and Coman.


Ribery is permainjured and I haver never watched Coman, but the other two are some of the top driblers in the game (and Ribery was too...)
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Post by Glory Mon Oct 26, 2015 12:25 pm

De bruyne is quality. He just had an off day yesterday thats all and Rojo was on top of his game (as he is that kind of a player who can boss even the best players on his day and the next day can turn to utter shite even against mediocre players)
Will take kdb over hazard.

On the other hand sterling is a fraud. :coffee:

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Post by VivaStPauli Mon Oct 26, 2015 1:07 pm

I don't think anyone ever thought De Bruyne was an 80m player. The German media was 90% "OMG 80 million for Wolfsburg!" and only 10% "Poor Wolfsburg losing de Bruyne" as well. Of course that was brilliant business, anything above 25 to 30m was hilariously overpaying.

He's not bad, mind you, but oh lordie those EPL expectations, gotta love it.

Edit: To be clear; De Bruyne is very, very good, and even good enough to be a key player in a top team's offense. I just think that 80m price tag makes people think he's like two Özils, or like 90% Messi, which he's not.
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Post by BAYERN_MUNICH Mon Oct 26, 2015 1:18 pm

A transfer fee has nothing to do with the quality of a player tbh. Its just a matter of supply and offer.
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Post by VivaStPauli Mon Oct 26, 2015 1:19 pm

It doesn't have nothing to do with it, as it drives demand; but yeah, quality doesn't do much to influence supply; meaning:
Better players are more expensive.
But players that are offered on transfer windows where there's few players on offer, are even more expensive yet.
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Post by Valkyrja Mon Oct 26, 2015 1:40 pm

He is a great player and probably the 3rd best AM in the game. A player is worth what the clubs are willing to offer. The inflated market is a different matter
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Post by free_cat Mon Oct 26, 2015 2:47 pm

Valkyrja wrote:He is a great player and probably the 3rd best AM in the game. A player is worth what the clubs are willing to offer. The inflated market is a different matter


3rd best AM? Laughing

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Post by Curtinho Mon Oct 26, 2015 3:01 pm

Some players, especially young ones, have bad games here and there. It's not surprising. KdB is a stud and I would take him over Hazard for example any day.

There are a lot of elements to his game that are very nice.

Look at his last 10 games even and he has 6 goals and 3 assists for club and country. Pretty impressive for an AM on a new team, and internationally it's always difficult.

Would have loved to have him at Liverpool.
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Post by LeBéninois Mon Oct 26, 2015 3:10 pm

Who cares about the price ? Players has little to say in that matter. KDB is a very good player and one of the best in his position. Period.
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Post by Doc Mon Oct 26, 2015 3:37 pm

In all fairness, his transfer fee genuinely was out of Kevin's control so to say he is the worst 80 million transfer signing is really harsh.

Speaking of harsh, it is best to wait till the end of the season to judge a player's impact throughout the season though I must admit, whatever Kevin did at Wolfsburg to acquire this great reputation I don't see it so far.

That being said, Free should be more patient when calling someone the worst transfer ever. Best to wait till at least he finishes this season.
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Post by Socur Toxanarosa Mon Oct 26, 2015 5:33 pm

free_cat wrote:Ozil never went for this kind of money, and he is a very good footballer. He has other weaknesses but twice De Bruyne's talent.


No Laughing

I think De Bruyne is class, but his style is not best suited for the wings.
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Post by Hapless_Hans Mon Oct 26, 2015 6:58 pm

Doc wrote:In all fairness, his transfer fee genuinely was out of Kevin's control so to say he is the worst 80 million transfer signing is really harsh.

Speaking of harsh, it is best to wait till the end of the season to judge a player's impact throughout the season though I must admit, whatever Kevin did at Wolfsburg to acquire this great reputation I don't see it so far.

That being said, Free should be more patient when calling someone the worst transfer ever. Best to wait till at least he finishes this season.


The thing is, as far as I can see de Bruyne is with City since a couple of months and has either scored or assisted in pretty much every game he played for them.
He IS already having an impact.
He obviously didn't on Sunday, so somebody watches that game and makes a thread :facepalm:
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Post by M99 Mon Oct 26, 2015 7:00 pm

Hapless_Hans wrote:So you watched two games then. Well done :facepalm:


Majority of games he has been brilliant. Stupid thread, market is like this nowadays. If you want to talk about overpricing, then you can make a case about for lot of players.
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Post by LeVersacci Mon Oct 26, 2015 7:01 pm

Not the first shit thread by Free Rat imo
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Post by zigra Mon Oct 26, 2015 7:13 pm

free_cat wrote: Bale was killed and never was as poor as De Bruyne.

hmm hmm hmm
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Post by Robespierre Mon Oct 26, 2015 7:15 pm

Just for a match...
So far his impact was very good, basically if they will go on in CL it's because of him . And it means the money spent for him is compensated easily from CL money.
For me his best quality is the effectiveness, the being concrete.
Basically he is not esthetically pleasing doesn't catch you the eye as Hazard but  he is really effective and this year easily more than his  fellow countryman
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Post by Hapless_Hans Mon Oct 26, 2015 7:19 pm

Exactly Robes. He's an end product machine.
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Post by Curtinho Mon Oct 26, 2015 8:26 pm

Yep. That's the thing when I try to explain to others why I like KdB better than Hazard. Hazard is flashy, he is smart and he opens up a lot of space but KdB is direct, intelligent and I find makes much more of the ball when he has it and when he's involved in the play.

Look at his body of work and not one game and anyone can see in today's day and age of endless amounts of money that if you can afford to buy him, then you buy him. He would likely start in any team in the world.
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Post by CBarca Mon Oct 26, 2015 9:12 pm

I haven't seen too much of him at City but from what I have seen he's been pretty good.

I prefer to wait until the end of the season to judge a player who's just moved. I find it's slightly more reliable than watching a game or maybe two.
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Post by RED Mon Oct 26, 2015 10:56 pm

Free_cat you should give some credit to Rojo, he basically nullified De Bruyne to ghost status.

And I agree about Martial, looked the best player on the pitch on Sunday. Love this kid.
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Post by The Franchise Tue Oct 27, 2015 12:00 am

Been playing well before this game, dont understand the criticism.

Yeah isnt an 80m player? Alright but Man City dont give a f if its 8m or 80.

Also, Liverpool fans STILL holding on to the notion Sterling isnt good?
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Post by Peccadillo Tue Oct 27, 2015 3:37 am

Valkyrja wrote:He is a great player and probably the 3rd best AM in the game. A player is worth what the clubs are willing to offer. The inflated market is a different matter


no this is the type of signing that helps inflate the market - not a by-product of one.
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Post by free_cat Tue Nov 03, 2015 9:59 pm

City played much better with the set-piece assist-merchant on the bench. Good game from Navas and Sterling, good wingers who can drible and didn't cost 80 miliom euro.
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Post by izzy Tue Nov 03, 2015 10:00 pm

free_cat wrote:City played much better with the set-piece assist-merchant on the bench. Good game from Navas and Sterling, good wingers who can drible and didn't cost 80 miliom euro.


Oh, you're gonna to be doing this huh?
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Post by Hapless_Hans Tue Nov 03, 2015 10:01 pm

anyone else thinks this free_cat crusade is really bizarre?

While we're on topic, surely the worst 80m player is Di Maria hmm
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