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Post by sportsczy on Wed Dec 30, 2015 7:09 pm

Nothing will happen... but this is interesting:

http://rmcsport.bfmtv.com/football/mercato-selon-puel-le-real-suit-ben-arfa-940180.html

According to Claude Puel the coach of Nice, Real Madrid is following Ben Arfa. He's basically pleading publicly for Ben Arfa to stay.

If he were to come (he's CL eligible obviously), one of Isco or James are on their way out.

That said, i doubt he does anything with the Euro coming up. Being on the bench automatically puts him off of NT.

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Re: Winter Transfer rumors

Post by halamadrid2 on Wed Dec 30, 2015 7:28 pm

Whats Ben Arfa going to do in our team? Glorified Faubert. No place for him and thanks but no thanks
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Re: Winter Transfer rumors

Post by LeBéninois on Wed Dec 30, 2015 7:49 pm

@sportsczy wrote:Nothing will happen... but this is interesting:

http://rmcsport.bfmtv.com/football/mercato-selon-puel-le-real-suit-ben-arfa-940180.html

According to Claude Puel the coach of Nice, Real Madrid is following Ben Arfa. He's basically pleading publicly for Ben Arfa to stay.

If he were to come (he's CL eligible obviously), one of Isco or James are on their way out.

That said, i doubt he does anything with the Euro coming up. Being on the bench automatically puts him off of NT.


The way Puel said it sounds more like it wasn't something serious ( RM following Ben Arfa ). It could just be a way to keep Be Arfa motivated. Anyways, Ben arfa ?? Laughing Laughing Certainly a joke . Why not Mahrez or Brahimi then ?

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Re: Winter Transfer rumors

Post by sportsczy on Wed Dec 30, 2015 8:15 pm

Also, PSG inquiring about James and Isco....  want to move Cavani out in the summer (if Ibra stays) and would like to replace him with one of these two.

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Re: Winter Transfer rumors

Post by The Demon of Carthage on Wed Dec 30, 2015 10:32 pm

yeah tell PSG good luck with that.

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Re: Winter Transfer rumors

Post by Perucho21 on Thu Dec 31, 2015 2:24 am

Replace Isco or James with Ben Arfa lmao

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Re: Winter Transfer rumors

Post by titosantill on Thu Dec 31, 2015 2:40 am

i would rather we don't go in the market this winter. we don't know what we want, nor our strongest line up; going into the market will just hamper some poor player's career and confidence. the team is deep enough. i'd rather we tough it out with the same team, coach, and at the end of the season, we asses how we want to rebuild. i'm not interested in covering the cracks when we have a major rebuilding process likely to come up
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Re: Winter Transfer rumors

Post by sportsczy on Thu Dec 31, 2015 2:45 am

@Perucho21 wrote:Replace Isco or James with Ben Arfa lmao

They both want to leave... so you're going to have to replace them eventually.

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Re: Winter Transfer rumors

Post by Adit on Thu Dec 31, 2015 4:56 am

Ben Arfa seriously rofl

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Re: Winter Transfer rumors

Post by The Demon of Carthage on Thu Dec 31, 2015 8:28 am

They both want to leave? Where did you get that? They have problems with the coach, not the club. And he'll likely be fired at the end of the season, if not sooner.

And Ben Arfa rofl
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Re: Winter Transfer rumors

Post by Perucho21 on Thu Dec 31, 2015 8:34 am

I understand if they'd want to leave sports. But replacing one of them with Ben Arfa? If anything I'd say let's call up Asensio

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Re: Winter Transfer rumors

Post by futbol_bill on Thu Dec 31, 2015 3:22 pm

I'm afraid Sports is right in that they both likely will end up elsewhere. Not because they want out but because as long as club persists with BBC and playing a formation that doesn't use AMs, there is no decent role for them nor for Asensio unfortunately.

however this is Madrid and they rarely ever participate in winter market.
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Re: Winter Transfer rumors

Post by Mr Nick09 on Thu Dec 31, 2015 5:55 pm

would not be the worse thing to sell them, we need different kind of players...

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Re: Winter Transfer rumors

Post by Adit on Thu Dec 31, 2015 8:22 pm

Like who?

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Re: Winter Transfer rumors

Post by futbol_bill on Thu Dec 31, 2015 11:32 pm

I think he means Adit, that since we don't play a formation utilizing AMs, we would be better off beefing up the midfield. It is just another consequence of flo and the insistance of BBC.
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Re: Winter Transfer rumors

Post by sportsczy on Fri Jan 01, 2016 7:34 am

We're trying to hijack Pogba away from Barca in the summer... but i think we'll fail. Madrid has fallen off big time in Pogba's mind. If Pep lands at Man City, i think they have the best shot to get Pogba away from Barca.

This changes if Zidane becomes the coach of course. In fact, i have a feeling a lot will change in the summer:
- Ronaldo will get sold
- Zidane will become the coach
- Pogba will then come to Madrid
- We'll shift to a diamond 442 with Kroos playing deep, Pogba/Modric on the sides and one of James or Isco playing on top of the diamond. Bale/Benzema as the strikers.
- Carvajal would get the nod at RB without the shadow of a doubt... although a friend of mine in footy mentioned that Madrid were looking at Candreva and making him into a RB. Strange but whatever. If that happened, all our CBs deserve a raise for hardship Laughing

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Re: Winter Transfer rumors

Post by Adit on Fri Jan 01, 2016 8:12 am

There is no need for Pogba.. Our midfield is good enough as it is... He will make things even difficult with his price tag... No thanks. Another galatico is last thing we need especially on midfield.

We are not trying either.. We have very bad relationship with Riola and frankly I don't really think Pogba is worth it either.

What we should do is sell CR and bring no one or bring one player who is a fast and tricky winger , good on tight spaces.

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Re: Winter Transfer rumors

Post by Valkyrja on Fri Jan 01, 2016 2:17 pm

Pogba is Barca bound. Frankly we don't need another midfielder. Our midfield is good. We don't need anyone tbh, even if CR leaves (hopefully). We need a smart coach. We'll see in the next month if Rafa is one

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Re: Winter Transfer rumors

Post by futbol_bill on Fri Jan 01, 2016 5:50 pm

@sportsczy wrote:We're trying to hijack Pogba away from Barca in the summer... but i think we'll fail.  Madrid has fallen off big time in Pogba's mind.  If Pep lands at Man City, i think they have the best shot to get Pogba away from Barca.

This changes if Zidane becomes the coach of course.  In fact, i have a feeling a lot will change in the summer:
-  Ronaldo will get sold
-  Zidane will become the coach
-  Pogba will then come to Madrid
-  We'll shift to a diamond 442 with Kroos playing deep, Pogba/Modric on the sides and one of James or Isco playing on top of the diamond.  Bale/Benzema as the strikers.
-  Carvajal would get the nod at RB without the shadow of a doubt...  although a friend of mine in footy mentioned that Madrid were looking at Candreva and making him into a RB.  Strange but whatever.  If that happened, all our CBs deserve a raise for hardship Laughing


Sports, you may be right (or maybe not), but I believe it really doesn't matter what changes are made as we still end up inferior to the Barcas and Bayerns unless Perez goes.

@futbol_bill wrote:I agree with the statements about Benitez's failed tactics and also it doesn't really matter who starts. But the problem will not get better with another coaching change (with better tactics) as long as Perez continues. When and if they sell Ronaldo, he will just bring in another perceived galactico and we will continue to play a formation without the use of AMs. As long as they try the 3 forwards, that are vastly inferior to Barca's front three, we have no hope.

The time has come for Flo to recognize his short comings, either give up the presidency or hand over futbol responsibilities to competent people.

We have talent in all areas of the field, it's just that we don't play the best tactics for the talent we have, particularly in regards to AMs.

The best thing that could happen, if Perez would finally see the light of day would be to get rid of the entire BBC, thoroughly assess our needs and what tactics are best, get a coach that will best suit this change in tactics, and sign based on team needs not any more "marketing" purchases. ...... but we know none of that will happen!!


We don't really need a Pogba. What I believe we need (assuming of course that Perez goes and a decent coach comes in) is get rid of BBC and Danilo, bring in a proven CF, competent backup laterals. We don't necessarily need more midfielders nor replacements for Bale nor Ronaldo. I would like the Sporting director and new coach to assess what tactics / formation to play and what are the team needs based on that. You also have to keep in mind that we have several promising youth under our belt now (with Ceballos still to be signed) that some of them will eventually make it to the first team. Again the problem isn't talent it's wrong formation / tactics for personnel we do have, that we can't compete with Barcelona and their front three with the same tactics as them when our front three is so vastly inferior, that we need a differing tactics to overcome them.

Just take a look at our last man on the roster - Denis. Villareal who is only a couple of points behind us want him (so does Valencia) and he would be a sure starter and key player for them, yet he is deemed not good enough for us!!! What bullshit - it's a case of having players on team that don't suit the tactics or being stuck behind full time starters.
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Re: Winter Transfer rumors

Post by sportsczy on Fri Jan 01, 2016 6:42 pm

It depends what we're looking to run Bill. I don't think you can dominate football in Europe without 3 very good CMs... not converted wingers or AMs... but honest to goodness CMs. They also need to be complementary.

Casemiro is a possibility as the deep lying mid... but he can't be on a side. Doesn't have the skill. So that would push Kroos up to one side and i don't think he has the athleticism to do it anymore. He needs to play deeper (by his own admission) so he has more space to operate (like Alonso).

The other thing is that you DON'T WANT Pogba to end up at Barca. Busquets-Pogba-Rakitic would be absolutely devastating and perfectly balanced. At least with Iniesta there, you can count on injuries and inconsistency given his recent history and age... but with those 3, you have no hope. Very young too.

Busquets
Rakitic-Pogba
Suarez-Messi-Neymar

Might as well stop playing the games.

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Re: Winter Transfer rumors

Post by Mr Nick09 on Fri Jan 01, 2016 7:16 pm

As it is right now, i would rather have a midfield of Pogba-kroos-modric than isco/james-kroos-modric.

i thought we went over this already, our midfield currently does not make sense.

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Re: Winter Transfer rumors

Post by futbol_bill on Fri Jan 01, 2016 8:10 pm

With BBC, I would agree, but I would hope we can get rid of BBC, use a configuration that would use the talent we already have especially AMs.

But if they continue with BBC (who are vastly inferior to Barca's front three), we should get sell Isco, James and Asensio, get someone like Pogba trying to beef up the midfield, but in that case you also need to replace Kroos with a more solid defender plus a good passer, someone like Busquets or Javi Martinez. But of course none of this is going to happen. So I repeat we are doomed as long as Perez persists.
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Re: Winter Transfer rumors

Post by Adit on Fri Jan 01, 2016 8:25 pm

Pogba instead of James doesn't really make any difference as long as BBC plays. He just like James is a superstar. A 120 mill player. Good luck getting him defend for bbc. He won't, and more problems of accommodating him. No thanks. I would rather put Kovacic there if BBC is here to stay.

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Post by Adit on Fri Jan 01, 2016 8:26 pm

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Re: Winter Transfer rumors

Post by Valkyrja on Fri Jan 01, 2016 8:27 pm

I'd rather sell Kroos than Isco, and buy a great DM. I personally don't like Kroos-Modric as the attacking midfielders. Isco is at his best as a LCM, the advanced center midfielder. He's not an AM who plays behind the striker like Ozil or James. IMO he's a must in a 433

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