Brexit: Should the UK stay or go?

ES wrote:https://twitter.com/Nigel_Farage/status/747730290294980608

rwo power wrote:

Unique wrote:who is this sociopath racist you speak of

Who else but this callous demagogue?

http://foreignpolicy.com/2016/06/28/watch-the-european-parliament-boo-nigel-farage-while-he-defends-the-brexit/

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jun/28/nigel-farage-european-parliament-petty-rant-ukip

The Demon of Carthage wrote:

ES wrote:https://twitter.com/Nigel_Farage/status/747730290294980608

I was laughing throughout the whole video, particularly over this line:

"Now, I know that virtually none of you have ever done a proper job in your lives or worked in business or trade or indeed ever created a job"

He's trying to convince other countries to keep trading with his country and yet he tells them that

This dude is a legend, incredibly stupid, but a legend nonetheless. He would kill as a stand-up comic

Unique wrote:what racist comments has he made.

Spoiler:

So it’s official. Nigel Farage wants to make racism legal.

There is no ambiguity. Ukip’s leader can try to obfuscate and weasel. Cheered on by his ragtag army of acolytes and supporters, he can rage about media misrepresentation as much as he likes.

But the camera doesn’t lie. Or at least, it didn’t on the day Nigel Farage sat down with Trevor Phillips to give his views on current race relations laws.

Phillips asks: “In Ukip-land there would be no law against discrimination on the grounds of nationality. Would there be a law against discrimination on the grounds or race or colour?”

“No,” Nigel Farage responds.

Nigel Farage: if an employer wishes to "discriminate" by choosing a British-born person "they should be allowed to do so"

Unique wrote:has anyone ever wondered why people like farage and trump get so much support. like I said before I don't even bother to vote. the way I live my life and where I live wouldent matter if forrest gump was in charge. but does anyone stop to think why they are now getting so much support

rwo power wrote:

Unique wrote:what racist comments has he made.

What about this?

Spoiler:

Or this:

So it’s official. Nigel Farage wants to make racism legal.

There is no ambiguity. Ukip’s leader can try to obfuscate and weasel. Cheered on by his ragtag army of acolytes and supporters, he can rage about media misrepresentation as much as he likes.

But the camera doesn’t lie. Or at least, it didn’t on the day Nigel Farage sat down with Trevor Phillips to give his views on current race relations laws.

Phillips asks: “In Ukip-land there would be no law against discrimination on the grounds of nationality. Would there be a law against discrimination on the grounds or race or colour?”

“No,” Nigel Farage responds.

Source: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/nigel-farage/11467713/No-dogs.-No-blacks.-No-Irish-is-now-Ukip-policy.html

Nigel Farage: if an employer wishes to "discriminate" by choosing a British-born person "they should be allowed to do so"

Source: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/11465505/Nigel-Farage-Bosses-should-be-allowed-to-discriminate-between-Britons-and-foreigners.html

Blue Barrett wrote:

Unique wrote:has anyone ever wondered why people like farage and trump get so much support. like I said before I don't even bother to vote. the way I live my life and where I live wouldent matter if forrest gump was in charge. but does anyone stop to think why they are now getting so much support

It's not rocket science. A certain portion of the population feel like they're getting the short end of the stick and here comes this person who says he's not part of the government establishment/elite and tells them where to direct their anger, not knowing he's telling them a load of lies just to feed their fears and he's leading them down the wrong path.

There, I summed it up for you.

Unique wrote:

Blue Barrett wrote:

Unique wrote:has anyone ever wondered why people like farage and trump get so much support. like I said before I don't even bother to vote. the way I live my life and where I live wouldent matter if forrest gump was in charge. but does anyone stop to think why they are now getting so much support

It's not rocket science. A certain portion of the population feel like they're getting the short end of the stick and here comes this person who says he's not part of the government establishment/elite and tells them where to direct their anger, not knowing he's telling them a load of lies just to feed their fears and he's leading them down the wrong path.

There, I summed it up for you.

a large portion of the population are getting the short end of the stick. and no person in the world can out right lie to you without some truth to it. why don't we just all tell the truth and admit that Islamic terrorists are a major factor in the way people think today. like it or not its a fact.

Blue Barrett wrote:^Yeah totally ignore the part where he says there will be no law against discrimination based on race or colour, which essentially makes him a RACIST.

But I guess you "don't see that".

Blue Barrett wrote:^Yeah totally ignore the part where he says there will be no law against discrimination based on race or colour, which essentially makes him a RACIST.

But I guess you "don't see that".

Blue Barrett wrote:

Unique wrote:

Blue Barrett wrote:

It's not rocket science. A certain portion of the population feel like they're getting the short end of the stick and here comes this person who says he's not part of the government establishment/elite and tells them where to direct their anger, not knowing he's telling them a load of lies just to feed their fears and he's leading them down the wrong path.

There, I summed it up for you.

a large portion of the population are getting the short end of the stick. and no person in the world can out right lie to you without some truth to it. why don't we just all tell the truth and admit that Islamic terrorists are a major factor in the way people think today. like it or not its a fact.

So therefore, let's all brand all muslims as threats. Gotcha.

Unique wrote:how is not wanting millions of Syrians flooding a already over populated country racist. I don't see that tbh. we have seen what has happened in Germany and the guy does not want that to happen here. their culture. way of life and religion has seen them burn their own country to the ground. what makes you think they will make Britain a better place.

Spoiler:

Unique wrote:

Blue Barrett wrote:

Unique wrote:
a large portion of the population are getting the short end of the stick. and no person in the world can out right lie to you without some truth to it. why don't we just all tell the truth and admit that Islamic terrorists are a major factor in the way people think today. like it or not its a fact.

So therefore, let's all brand all muslims as threats. Gotcha.

do you have kids mate?

rwo power wrote:

Unique wrote:how is not wanting millions of Syrians flooding a already over populated country racist. I don't see that tbh. we have seen what has happened in Germany and the guy does not want that to happen here. their culture. way of life and religion has seen them burn their own country to the ground. what makes you think they will make Britain a better place.

Well, I know a certain guy who had the same ideas in Germany a couple years ago. You only need to replace the word "immigrants" by "Jews" and "Britain" by "Germany" and the slogans are identical. Oh, and at that time no one took the signs and portents seriously, either.

Spoiler:

i don't think its the same thing tbh

Mind you - those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

Blue Barrett wrote:

Unique wrote:

Blue Barrett wrote:
So therefore, let's all brand all muslims as threats. Gotcha.

do you have kids mate?

What does me having kids or not have to do with branding 1.6 billion people as threats to my country?

Unique wrote:

rwo power wrote:Well, I know a certain guy who had the same ideas in Germany a couple years ago. You only need to replace the word "immigrants" by "Jews" and "Britain" by "Germany" and the slogans are identical. Oh, and at that time no one took the signs and portents seriously, either.

 
i don't think its the same thing tbh

rwo power wrote:

Unique wrote:

rwo power wrote:Well, I know a certain guy who had the same ideas in Germany a couple years ago. You only need to replace the word "immigrants" by "Jews" and "Britain" by "Germany" and the slogans are identical. Oh, and at that time no one took the signs and portents seriously, either.

 
i don't think its the same thing tbh

Really?

The Nazi party came to power with slogans about Jews flooding Germany, bringing their foreign religion, taking money, work and everything from the poor, hard working Germans.

As Hitler was a cunning demagogue who was clever to use the media for his propaganda, he managed to rile up the public by promising everything to the readily believing population, who were tricked into voting in some referendums to empower Hitler and in the end taking away their own rights - all via some cleverly worded referendums*.

Frankly as I'm seeing the parallels to the events in the UK, I'm getting more and more terrified. The increasing violence against foreigners is alarming, too. You should hope there won't be soon a Kristallnacht in England.

*) And this is why there are no federal level referendums in Germany anymore as they were deemed too problematic and a danger to democracy.

RealGunner wrote:you do know that UK are ONLY taking the kids and families right?

Unique wrote:

Blue Barrett wrote:

Unique wrote: do you have kids mate?

What does me having kids or not have to do with branding 1.6 billion people as threats to my country?

answer my question and I will tell you.

Unique wrote:tell me how are the flood of imigrants fitting in. I see germans on youtube talking about how they fear lots of these people. the new year eve attacks. young girls scared to walk the streets in some places. why would you except this kind of thing to your own people when the people doing it cant even live in peace with each other.

rwo power wrote:

Unique wrote:tell me how are the flood of imigrants fitting in. I see germans on youtube talking about how they fear lots of these people. the new year eve attacks. young girls scared to walk the streets in some places. why would you except this kind of thing to your own people when the people doing it cant even live in peace with each other.

I never claimed things were perfect, but that doesn't mean there couldn't be ways to fix the problems. One just has to work on it and not simply give up.

I just know that many signs in the UK look alarmingly like the start of Hitler's rise to power and the beginning of the persecution of Jews in Germany.

The problem is that it appears as if the people in the UK (or rather England/Wales) don't realise what path they could walk, if they don't wake up soon.

Unique wrote:come on mate. we voted out of the EU. we are not gassing jews. the thing that gets my back up in these arguments is the fact that people think like me and don't even know it. hypocricy.

Unique wrote:

RealGunner wrote:you do know that UK are ONLY taking the kids and families right?