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Masch deal is off, it has been already confirmed by Marotta
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heffkzar wrote:You would like both of em ?
why not?
a problem is that some midfielders are leaving
CUADRADO, PADOIN
and some midfielders are injury MARCHISIO, KHEDIRA
if we choose to trust what we have on the bench HERNANES, LEMINA, STURARO I am cool with that
but if the focus is to make the team better those need to be substituted with high quality players like Gomes, Mascherano, Witsel
another good opportunity to improve is MORATA exit to be substituted with SANCHEZ
I would honestly sacrifice POGBA for 100 million and make this happen
--------- SANCHEZ --- DYBALA --------
------------------ PJANIC ----------------
------- GOMES -------------- KHEDIRA ---
--------------- MASCHERANO ------------
SANDRO ---- CB -------- CB ------ ALVES
this team is sure intimidating even without POGBA
both of GOMES and MASCHERANO, maybe even WITSEL if POGBA leaves
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Sanchez and Dybala as a partnership up top, I think I would black out if I saw that
What makes you rate Gomes over Marchisio?
Anyways, I'm fairly certain that Mascherano stays in Barcelona and that Gomes goes to Mancehster United.
I also would rather have Pogba and Marchisio over Mascherano and Gomes, we don't improve at all with the latter in my opinion, forget about underrating Pogba, completely underrating Marchisio as well.
What makes you rate Gomes over Marchisio?
Anyways, I'm fairly certain that Mascherano stays in Barcelona and that Gomes goes to Mancehster United.
I also would rather have Pogba and Marchisio over Mascherano and Gomes, we don't improve at all with the latter in my opinion, forget about underrating Pogba, completely underrating Marchisio as well.
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I am not underrating MARCHISIO he is injured and nobody knows when he will get back to his best
even if he will be PERFECT really soon , what is the problem of having another HIGH QUALITY midfielder on the bench ?
REAL MADRID has KOVACIC, ISCO, JAMES so many of them on the bench it doesn't do any harm
even if he will be PERFECT really soon , what is the problem of having another HIGH QUALITY midfielder on the bench ?
REAL MADRID has KOVACIC, ISCO, JAMES so many of them on the bench it doesn't do any harm
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It does harm when you're not a club with a 550 million euro revenue in a league that nobody has any objections over joining.
We are not at the point where we can maintain a star studded bench, it's not really our way anyway.
Top players who can start for CL caliber clubs don't want to sit on our bench and don't typically respond well to heavy rotation.
We are not at the point where we can maintain a star studded bench, it's not really our way anyway.
Top players who can start for CL caliber clubs don't want to sit on our bench and don't typically respond well to heavy rotation.
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For more reasons than one we should not be following Real Madrid's model.
1. Don't have the resources
2. It's not feasible, do you really want to have quality players like Isco and James on the bench, all that does is divide the fan base, puts unbelievable pressure on everyone and is just a complete waste for them and for us
3. Their model suits them, but it does not suit us
Anyways, this over hyping of Gomes for no reason is quite confusing. He seems a good player with potential, Mascherano is proven and more understandable but out of reach.
I would sign Gomes but never at the expense of Pogba.
Anyways, the Pjanic signing really strengthens our midfield and I believe were all set there, assuming Pogba stays.
A forward is the most pressing issue with Morata's departure.
1. Don't have the resources
2. It's not feasible, do you really want to have quality players like Isco and James on the bench, all that does is divide the fan base, puts unbelievable pressure on everyone and is just a complete waste for them and for us
3. Their model suits them, but it does not suit us
Anyways, this over hyping of Gomes for no reason is quite confusing. He seems a good player with potential, Mascherano is proven and more understandable but out of reach.
I would sign Gomes but never at the expense of Pogba.
Anyways, the Pjanic signing really strengthens our midfield and I believe were all set there, assuming Pogba stays.
A forward is the most pressing issue with Morata's departure.
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So far
In:
Pjanic - €32M
Lemina - €9.5M
Dani Alves - Free
Total : €41.5M
Out :
Morata - €30M
Padoin - €1M
Caceres - Free
Total - €31M
Net Spend : €10.5M
In:
Pjanic - €32M
Lemina - €9.5M
Dani Alves - Free
Total : €41.5M
Out :
Morata - €30M
Padoin - €1M
Caceres - Free
Total - €31M
Net Spend : €10.5M
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its not about following REAL MADRID way
its about compensating for the needs
when someone is INJURED , it means he is gone you don't count on that anymore
if it wasn't about injury of ASAMOAH we maybe would not go for guys like EVRA, ALEX SANDRO but because of injury you need to move on
MARCHISIO and KHEDIRA both are risky to count on them , because of injuries we need to go for at least one midfielder to compensate for that , for example Mascherano and also try to use LEMINA, STURARO guys
its about compensating for the needs
when someone is INJURED , it means he is gone you don't count on that anymore
if it wasn't about injury of ASAMOAH we maybe would not go for guys like EVRA, ALEX SANDRO but because of injury you need to move on
MARCHISIO and KHEDIRA both are risky to count on them , because of injuries we need to go for at least one midfielder to compensate for that , for example Mascherano and also try to use LEMINA, STURARO guys
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what I really loved about Juventus last season is because we had a team that could possible switch to different formations, it was too much flexible
MORATA was a special piece of the puzzle who could open wide and switch formation from 4-4-2 to 4-2-3-1 with MORATA and CUADRADO on the wings
CUADRADO was a winger who could defend and switch to SB and make it 5 defenders, but could also attack as a SIDE STRIKER and make it 4-3-3 when necessary
I hope JUVENTUS finds a way to continue with that because it was really impressive
MORATA was a special piece of the puzzle who could open wide and switch formation from 4-4-2 to 4-2-3-1 with MORATA and CUADRADO on the wings
CUADRADO was a winger who could defend and switch to SB and make it 5 defenders, but could also attack as a SIDE STRIKER and make it 4-3-3 when necessary
I hope JUVENTUS finds a way to continue with that because it was really impressive
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Agreed with you entirely. Pogba is still at the club tho, that makes at least 6 high caliber central midfielders.
I, like you, think the 2015-2016 team was perfect. Add to this Pjanic and Alves, and i think we could have been serious CL contenders Now Morata left, so we better get a forward who is, at least, on the same level. That is our priority right now.
If we want to finally a quiet offseason where we don't worry about possibly losing our superstars, then we need to perform well and reach far in the Champions League every year. And to make this possible you can't decrease the quality/chemistry of the squad. For this reason i am against the sale of Zaza and to replace Morata ?... Whoever i could say, we all have our own preferences, it just have to be a trustworthy striker.
I, like you, think the 2015-2016 team was perfect. Add to this Pjanic and Alves, and i think we could have been serious CL contenders Now Morata left, so we better get a forward who is, at least, on the same level. That is our priority right now.
If we want to finally a quiet offseason where we don't worry about possibly losing our superstars, then we need to perform well and reach far in the Champions League every year. And to make this possible you can't decrease the quality/chemistry of the squad. For this reason i am against the sale of Zaza and to replace Morata ?... Whoever i could say, we all have our own preferences, it just have to be a trustworthy striker.
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I don't worry about MORATA transfer because JUVENTUS has done a good business
MORATA and COMAN did not do any harm, they contributed for the team so we did not need to spend millions on guys like MATRI instead we are about to have 60 million back
instead of going negative 40 million, because of them we are about to get positive 60 million which makes it 100 million difference
ZAZA and MANDZUKIC both are wanted from clubs out there and can easy make money from them if we want
considering this situation , there is no need to worry about this at all
JUVENTUS stands so good on this they can get C RONALDO if they really want just from the money they can make from COMAN, MORATA, ZAZA, MANDZUKIC
the only thing what worry me is the injury of MARCHISIO and KHEDIRA there is nothing else I worry about
but even that it is not something to worry about because we have HERNANES, STURARO, LEMINA which I consider all to be TRUSTWORTHY
and we can also switch to 3-5-2 formation so we dont need to use 4 midfielders we use 3 center midfielders + 2 wing backs
------------------- FW ---- FW -----------------
SANDRO ----- POGBA - STURARO ------ ALVES
---------------------- PJANIC -------------------
------------ cb --------- CB --------- cb --------
so we can do this or also consider HERNANES and 4-4-2 formation until MARCHISIO and KHEDIRA are ready
but I think Juventus has done a good business there and should not be too cheap on this they should consider guys like SANCHES, ANDRE GOMES, WITSEL and hope to improve the team
its not about spending big like REAL MADRID, the money is already there made from our players, and also guys like ZAZA, LEMINA can be sacrificed and build an intimidating team
LICHTAINER, ASAMOAH can also be sacrificed I am sure JUVENTUS can get some money back from them
we are on good situation here we just need to make sure what we doing
MORATA and COMAN did not do any harm, they contributed for the team so we did not need to spend millions on guys like MATRI instead we are about to have 60 million back
instead of going negative 40 million, because of them we are about to get positive 60 million which makes it 100 million difference
ZAZA and MANDZUKIC both are wanted from clubs out there and can easy make money from them if we want
considering this situation , there is no need to worry about this at all
JUVENTUS stands so good on this they can get C RONALDO if they really want just from the money they can make from COMAN, MORATA, ZAZA, MANDZUKIC
the only thing what worry me is the injury of MARCHISIO and KHEDIRA there is nothing else I worry about
but even that it is not something to worry about because we have HERNANES, STURARO, LEMINA which I consider all to be TRUSTWORTHY
and we can also switch to 3-5-2 formation so we dont need to use 4 midfielders we use 3 center midfielders + 2 wing backs
------------------- FW ---- FW -----------------
SANDRO ----- POGBA - STURARO ------ ALVES
---------------------- PJANIC -------------------
------------ cb --------- CB --------- cb --------
so we can do this or also consider HERNANES and 4-4-2 formation until MARCHISIO and KHEDIRA are ready
but I think Juventus has done a good business there and should not be too cheap on this they should consider guys like SANCHES, ANDRE GOMES, WITSEL and hope to improve the team
its not about spending big like REAL MADRID, the money is already there made from our players, and also guys like ZAZA, LEMINA can be sacrificed and build an intimidating team
LICHTAINER, ASAMOAH can also be sacrificed I am sure JUVENTUS can get some money back from them
we are on good situation here we just need to make sure what we doing
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Well, as you said, we don't have money issues. That's why i prefer we keep the most players we can, and just add some beef around it.
Last year's group was unbeaten for like 4 months in Serie A and nearly beat Bayern, lets not forget that.
Sanchez, Mascherano, Witsel ? I'm not against one of them coming, but not all of em. I always forget Witsel since he plays in the far east but yeah i think he could fit pretty well A forward is the priority.
I just want the face of the team to not change.
Last year's group was unbeaten for like 4 months in Serie A and nearly beat Bayern, lets not forget that.
Sanchez, Mascherano, Witsel ? I'm not against one of them coming, but not all of em. I always forget Witsel since he plays in the far east but yeah i think he could fit pretty well A forward is the priority.
I just want the face of the team to not change.
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yeah last season was really impressive
we dominated SERIE A
we was impressive in UCL
and the only thing wrong against BAYERN was the referee
we dominated SERIE A
we was impressive in UCL
and the only thing wrong against BAYERN was the referee
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Is his name Hernanevski, by any chance ?DeviAngel wrote:WE signed a Macedonian talent
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Tomwin Lannister wrote:Congrats devi, hope you're better than Marco Motta for us.
ffs I am better then Marchisio
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But are you better than....
HERNANES?!
HERNANES?!
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Tomwin Lannister wrote:But are you better than....
HERNANES?!
I am better than anyone except Lord Padoin who I miss the most
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Rubinho has left the club.
I think so far its:
Cuadrado
Morata
Caceres
Padoin
Rubinho
a good number of players
I think so far its:
Cuadrado
Morata
Caceres
Padoin
Rubinho
a good number of players
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Benatia interest may also tell Bonuci is going out
I hope this doesn't happen
I hope this doesn't happen
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No chance for Bonucci to leave, we wouldnt sell him and he wouldnt force a move. Barzagli is old, Chiellini is injury prone and Caceres left, we need CBs. I think Benatia is a bit overkill, someone like Acerbi would have done. But I guess we'll see more rotation from BBC.
BBC + Rugani and Benatia is fine for 5 spots if handled well.
BBC + Rugani and Benatia is fine for 5 spots if handled well.
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what makes you think we don't sell him?
if someone gives a good offer why not?
1. we substitute BONUCI with BENATIA
2. we reinvest the money on midfield something we are more desperate about considering injuries of KHEDIRA, MARCHISIO and CUADRADO leaving
if someone gives a good offer why not?
1. we substitute BONUCI with BENATIA
2. we reinvest the money on midfield something we are more desperate about considering injuries of KHEDIRA, MARCHISIO and CUADRADO leaving
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Because the club doesn't need to sell Bonucci to fund other transfers
Because right now we have 5 CBs for 3 positions which makes sense, a number we've always had in past seasons. 4 CBs for 3 positions if Bonucci were to leave is not enough.
Not to mention dropping Bonucci for Benatia weakens the team.
Because right now we have 5 CBs for 3 positions which makes sense, a number we've always had in past seasons. 4 CBs for 3 positions if Bonucci were to leave is not enough.
Not to mention dropping Bonucci for Benatia weakens the team.
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