Re: Mesut Ozil discussion

by halamadrid2 Thu Sep 05, 2013 12:26 pm

sportsczy wrote:Bale spent 25% of his time on the right wing last year... 40% on the center and 35% on the left according to season heat maps.

Also, changing wings is much, much easier (although still hard) then changing positions... especially the CF spot that is very specialized.

Finally... why the frak would you even want to do that!!! (thank god the coaches won't). Bale's entire style is based on space and speed. He's very much a push the ball and chase it type player. What he doesn't do well in is tight spaces because you need tight control and tricky dribbling... neither of which he does well. Also, he doesn't have a quick trigger shot. Like CR7, he likes to wind it up.

It makes absolutely zero sense. Thankfully, nobody but a few fans are even considering it.

we dont exactly play with a CF at the moment with Morata being on the bench so yh his role isn't exactly going to be stay in the box and score type of crap

by halamadrid2 Thu Sep 05, 2013 12:28 pm

sportsczy wrote:Here. I picked a match against Liverpool in March 2013 to show Bale's positioning last year:

He basically spends most of his time at RAM or RW and cut in. Why? He's a lefty. He likes to cut in and shoot since he was asked to be a scorer last year. He rarely played left because that negated his shot... and scoring since it would make him cut in on his weaker foot.

one game against Liverpool isnt going to change much. Bale was basically their striker with Adebayor drifting everywhere but the box. Lennon was the right winger and sigurdsson the left. Bale was basically furthest up

I can bet you anything that RF role is the one he takes

by Onyx Thu Sep 05, 2013 12:40 pm

I think there's a difference between playing purely on the right and starting in the middle and moving to the right.

Similar to Ronaldo, who starts on the left and moves centrally. He doesn't prefer starting in the middle.

by sportsczy Thu Sep 05, 2013 12:41 pm

Ok dude. I guess we'll just see. He was not a CF. He was a RAM and AM that cut in or burst forward to shoot. When his shot wasn't there, he's just continued his run off the right or center into the box. But he never, ever played a CF role.

I watched a lot of Spurs games because of Lloris.

Anyhow, we shall see.

by Crimson Thu Sep 05, 2013 2:27 pm

To get over the Ozil blues:

Mesut Ozil discussion - Page 29 Tweet

by jibers Thu Sep 05, 2013 4:03 pm

Agree with sports. Bale never played as a CF

by chad4401 Thu Sep 05, 2013 4:35 pm

Why can't some stop with bale cf theory its not gonna happen, di maria is getting benched and ozil is already sold its as clear as day where he will play, enough with the fifa logic its getting stupid to be discussion the same thing over and over when you see the answers in front of you, benzema is the starting Cf get over it, if benz gets sold suarez will be brought in get it, sometimes i wonder about some of you

by Magricos Thu Sep 05, 2013 5:26 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=4Oqy2VDtUSo I am just happy that he played for Madrid and i hope he does well in the future

by LeSwagg James Sat Sep 07, 2013 11:46 pm

by sportsczy Sun Sep 08, 2013 11:35 am

http://futbol.as.com/futbol/2013/09/08/primera/1378634294_837283.html

Ozil: ""In Real Madrid, I had lost trust and respect" and "i would have left for free to Arsenal."

There goes the classy and respectful departure Laughing

by Pedram Sun Sep 08, 2013 11:47 am

He looks bitter.

No one forced him to leave, he decided to run away from competition, he didn't give himself a chance.

by halamadrid2 Sun Sep 08, 2013 1:38 pm

"respect" huh??!!!?? lol the same guy who was on the first pland out the moment he heard the word competition. gtfo seems like he and Cacktrao are made out of the same cloth

by Glory Sun Sep 08, 2013 2:14 pm

"The exit of Ozil is very bad news for me. He was the player who best knew my moves in front of goal, .I'm angry about Özil leaving." - Ronaldo
No offense meant but along with the acquisition of Bale seems you guys are losing not 1 but actually 2 world class players. Thanking Mr.Perez for making him unhappy once again. Very Happy

by Onyx Sun Sep 08, 2013 3:04 pm

What he's saying is kind of justified. He wasn't some young player anymore. He was a player who deserved to be treated like a Galactico. Deserved some sort of wage increase and also deserved to play where he wanted, just like Ronaldo.

At Arsenal he can get all that. However long term I don't think it's the best move, since he deserves to play for a better team.

by Winter is Coming Mon Sep 09, 2013 1:40 am

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2415392/Mesut-Ozil-chased-ex-Miss-Venezuela-Aida-Yespica-offloaded-Real-Madrid.html

lol trying to look for an excuse for Ozil exit.

by FennecFox7 Thu Sep 12, 2013 10:50 pm

Winter is Coming wrote:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2415392/Mesut-Ozil-chased-ex-Miss-Venezuela-Aida-Yespica-offloaded-Real-Madrid.html

lol trying to look for an excuse for Ozil exit.

Dailymail.. wow so reliable Rolling Eyes

by hrealmadrid Sun Sep 15, 2013 3:44 am

He tore it up today. Controlled the game almost the entire first half. Something he supposedly can't do.

scratch

by Cyborg Sun Sep 15, 2013 5:25 am

madrid missed him today. no number 10; no creativity, no vision.

by sportsczy Thu Sep 19, 2013 2:39 pm

http://as.com/diarioas/2013/09/19/english/1379590504_007565.html

Flo: "The player asked to leave and nobody here should be upset about it. He couldn’t handle the pressure at Madrid."

by jibers Thu Sep 19, 2013 3:47 pm

People need to get over his depature. As silky as Ozil was he was not a killer. When ROnaldo wasn't stepping up noone else did anything. Now you have Bale and Isco, two players that can provide moments of magic even when they are having extremely poor games, much like Cristiano does.

by Nedved Thu Sep 19, 2013 4:41 pm

Agree

by Le Samourai Thu Sep 19, 2013 10:15 pm

The frequency with which you score doesn't reflect your ability to change a game. There were many games Ozil carried us in; many games he changed - in a way Bale will never be able to.

Refuse to believe the only way we could fix the issue of a player taking 15 shots a game is buying another player willing to take 10.

by Onyx Fri Sep 20, 2013 12:14 am

Bale wasn't really bought to solve any tactical problems. It was an unnecessary transfer. Perez just wanted the latest hyped player. Perez was probably relieved that Ozil wanted to leave. He could recuperate some money and also Bale's path to the starting 11 would be easy, if it wasn't already. Ozil offers more than Bale build up play wise and is a better player.

by Crimson Fri Sep 20, 2013 12:23 am

Yohan Modric wrote:Bale wasn't really bought to solve any tactical problems. It was an unnecessary transfer. Perez just wanted the latest hyped player. Perez was probably relieved that Ozil wanted to leave. He could recuperate some money and also Bale's path to the starting 11 would be easy, if it wasn't already. Ozil offers more than Bale build up play wise and is a better player.

/facepalm

Do you have a tin foil hat? Do you work in Perez's entourage?

by Onyx Fri Sep 20, 2013 12:34 am

It's just one way of looking at it. Based on Perez's character, history and previous transfers, I wouldn't put it past him to do all of that. He doesn't fully look at the footballing side of things in terms of transfers.

by Crimson Fri Sep 20, 2013 12:55 am

Yohan Modric wrote:It's just one way of looking at it. Based on Perez's character, history and previous transfers, I wouldn't put it past him to do all of that. He doesn't fully look at the footballing side of things in terms of transfers.

Right.....so now you're guessing and poorly at that.

Seriously if you don't think Bale is a good fit for this team and doesn't solve a number of issues we had last year then you simply can not be helped.

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