Re: 2022 Qatar World Cup

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Mon 4 Mar - 16:08:10

Lex wrote:What happened to the £30 billion air conditioning they were going to install?

A load of hot air like everything else?

Spoiler:

by VendettaRed07 Mon 4 Mar - 21:01:56

You couldn't just have given it to America could you Fifa?.... It would have been easier, safer and more enjoyable for everyone.

by Onyx Mon 4 Mar - 21:05:27

Why is Summer rated above Winter? Why's Summer always seen as the positive season and Winter the negative?

Is the actual season the problem, or is it because of the clubs seasons starting?

by VivaStPauli Mon 4 Mar - 21:06:46

Because we play f*cking football in winter except for like 2 weeks, while we have a summer break in which we have international tournaments, in countries with proper climate.

by Onyx Mon 4 Mar - 21:14:47

True, however the 2022 WC being in Qatar can't be changed now.

The WC isn't a long tournament. It only lasts around a month. So the season can either start a month early or end a month late. Add in maybe a 3/4 weeks rest. The previous season would probably end early too.

by Guest Mon 4 Mar - 21:16:51

If they knew about these conditions, why give Qatar the World Cup in the first place? I do not like the idea of "moving mountains" in order to make this "work", words cannot describe...

by Kaladin Mon 4 Mar - 21:19:59

Sorry for existing in a hot area of the world, we'll try to move the country next time

by Guest Mon 4 Mar - 21:21:55

No need to move the country, just allow a country that is capable of hosting this event in the summer.

by zizzle Mon 4 Mar - 21:22:38

can it be done ? yes it can. should it be done ? no it shouldnt. Will it be done ? more likely than not.

by rwo power Mon 4 Mar - 21:30:07

Yohan Modric wrote:True, however the 2022 WC being in Qatar can't be changed now.

The WC isn't a long tournament. It only lasts around a month. So the season can either start a month early or end a month late. Add in maybe a 3/4 weeks rest. The previous season would probably end early too.

You forget the about 2 months of preparation the NT coaches need before the tournament to form a proper team.

And you can't end a season early - you have 34 (BL) or 38 matchdays (other leagues with 20 teams), plus the cups etc.

by VendettaRed07 Mon 4 Mar - 21:34:17

THC 10 wrote:No need to move the country, just allow a country that is capable of hosting this event in the summer.

Its not even that.. Actually prove that they have these existing air conditioned stadiums instead of just saying "Well, woops.. Guess its impossible even though that saying we could build these were the ENTIRE reason we won the world cup bid in the first place"

by punkfusion1992 Mon 4 Mar - 23:37:33

To be honest I love the fact that the WC is being played in the middle east

I was brought up there, and honestly the people are a football mad nation. I am honestly more pissed that Russia is hosting a world cup

by TalkingReckless Mon 4 Mar - 23:52:46

btw Fifa also said Qatar hasn't asked for it to be moved to Winter, and Fifa will only move it if Qatar wants it, which currently they don't.... they have over 9 years left

by CBarca Tue 5 Mar - 0:03:28

This is stupid and it will never happen anyway.

by Tomwin Lannister Tue 5 Mar - 0:07:21

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:
Lex wrote:What happened to the £30 billion air conditioning they were going to install?

A load of hot air like everything else?

Spoiler:

by Onyx Tue 5 Mar - 0:14:09

rwo power wrote:
Yohan Modric wrote:True, however the 2022 WC being in Qatar can't be changed now.

The WC isn't a long tournament. It only lasts around a month. So the season can either start a month early or end a month late. Add in maybe a 3/4 weeks rest. The previous season would probably end early too.
You forget the about 2 months of preparation the NT coaches need before the tournament to form a proper team.

And you can't end a season early - you have 34 (BL) or 38 matchdays (other leagues with 20 teams), plus the cups etc.

Well they don't usually get 2 months I think. Season ends in May and WC starts in June.

It's possible to start maybe next season this July, instead of August, to finish a month early.

by rwo power Tue 5 Mar - 0:38:51

Yohan Modric wrote:Well they don't usually get 2 months I think. Season ends in May and WC starts in June.

It's possible to start maybe next season this July, instead of August, to finish a month early.

In Germany, the season ends in the first May week most of the time, so only the teams that compete in the DFB Pokal or possibly CL final send their players a week or two later (this actually hampered Jogi Löw's Euro 2012 preparation quite a bit as both the Dortmund and Bayern internationals were late for the NT training camp.) And the DFB Pokal starts before the Bundesliga, too. The scheduling issues would be a total chaos.

by Onyx Tue 5 Mar - 0:40:55

rwo power wrote:
Yohan Modric wrote:Well they don't usually get 2 months I think. Season ends in May and WC starts in June.

It's possible to start maybe next season this July, instead of August, to finish a month early.
In Germany, the season ends in the first May week most of the time, so only the teams that compete in the DFB Pokal or possibly CL final send their players a week or two later (this actually hampered Jogi Löw's Euro 2012 preparation quite a bit as both the Dortmund and Bayern internationals were late for the NT training camp.) And the DFB Pokal starts before the Bundesliga, too.

CL final and cup finals could be moved to early May/late April.

by rwo power Tue 5 Mar - 0:42:39

Well, that would be just when the last matchdays of the league are played. I'm pretty sure no one would really be happy about that!

by Lex Tue 5 Mar - 0:42:47

No-one has addressed the really important question................wtf are we going to do for 3 months in 2022 after the league ends?? Sad

by baresi Tue 5 Mar - 0:55:00

VendettaRed07 wrote:
THC 10 wrote:No need to move the country, just allow a country that is capable of hosting this event in the summer.

Its not even that.. Actually prove that they have these existing air conditioned stadiums instead of just saying "Well, woops.. Guess its impossible even though that saying we could build these were the ENTIRE reason we won the world cup bid in the first place"

100% agree with this, if it is impossible to install those ACs then it is only fair to pick another country.

Anyway if I were a decision maker in FIFA I would play the same game Qatar played. Promise Qatar that the WC would be played in Qatar, allow Qatar to give those multi billion contracts to European companies to build stadiums, and whatever is needed to host the WC, and tell Qatar well ooops we can't play the WC in winter, sorry WC is going to some other country.

by stevieg8 Tue 5 Mar - 0:56:50

I'm so excited for this! I can see it now: we're at the halfway point of the EPL season, with Liverpool and ManU neck and neck for the title, when Raheem Sterling, Liverpool and England's star player in the prime of his career (28 years old) goes to the World Cup for his team, tears an ACL in the group stages, and is out for the next year. ManU cruises to the title while Liverpool drop 20 points the rest of the way and finish outside of the European spots.

It would be like the FA's wet dream, the clean-up from that collective orgasm would take MONTHS.

by Real Kandahar Tue 5 Mar - 1:13:54

its 9 yrs away, who knows if we will even live to see it

by Motogp69 Tue 5 Mar - 1:56:34

El Shaarawy wrote:http://www.caughtoffside.com/2013/03/03/fifa-confirm-2022-qatar-world-cup-could-be-held-in-the-winter/

Speaking from first hand experience, i approve of this. It tends to get above 50+ C in the summer. Problem is it will get in the way of league schedules and whatnot. Thoughts?

How about they do the right thing and confirm it won't be in Qatar.

by barca 2011 Tue 5 Mar - 2:05:29

So the entire footballing world would now have to cater to a complete change of how the system has been set up for a very long time because the nation which won the bid (likely due to corruption) can't make good on the promise of artificial cooling clouds? FIFA knew about the conditions.

I'm not saying this WC will be a failure because obviously it has t happened, but that entire season of club football sure as well will be if they skew it like that.

They couldn't of just given it to the States in which the sport is growing at such a good pace. And in 9 years the timing would've been better since even more growth would've been allowed.

by FalcaoPunch Tue 5 Mar - 2:07:44

I wish it'd been pick to be here in the states. Would have been awesome.
A WC in Qatar just has "flop" written all over it

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