Goal.com excuses about Messi

Lol @ all the goal.com articles and excuses they make about Messi not doing well in the Copa America.

http://www.goal.com/en/news/1717/editorial/2011/07/08/2565064/brilliant-for-barcelona-average-for-argentina-why-lifeless

I laughed while reading this whole article, no one seemed to want to mention the truth, but only mention other stuff that is hardly true.

Uhm, the rest were stupid but 1 guy was right. This was what he said:

"What is an underperformance? In the 2010 World Cup, Messi was the best Argentinian, and if we speak about the two matches of the Copa America, the answer is the same.

However, I think there is a tactical problem. Firstly, Argentina plays with three midfielders of similar 'ball handling' ability, and Messi has to go and get the ball. Also, Barca pressure all over the field, whereas Argentina only pressure in the middle.

I think the worst mistake of Batista was to call Tevez. Without him, Argentina had moments in their friendly matches where they looked like Barcelona. When Tevez is included, it adds confusion.

Certainly, there is a growing unrest regarding the tactical expertise of Batista; his bizarre, incompatible midfield triumvirate of Esteban Cambiasso, Ever Banega and Javier Mascherano seemed to stagnate and stifle forward momentum, while at the same time fail to afford Messi the technique around him that generates the space to create opportunities.

Furthermore, Carlos Tevez's late inclusion in the squad and subsequent starting berth represents a humiliating backtracking of opinion by Batista, who had previously been adamant that the Manchester City forward was not a suitable foil for his Ballon d'Or-winning centrepiece. At the behest of journalistic clamour, he has been thrown into the action; and the tactician's initial fears appear more than justified. Indeed, his inclusion of Ezequiel Lavezzi to complete the trio of attackers appears, in respect of producing the best from his indefatigable genius as ill-conceived as his Tevez turnaround.

Questions have been asked, too, of the overwhelming reliance on him to create in opposition territory. In the Copa America so far, Messi has appeared disconnected from those around him, almost submerging into an individual mindset of what he, in particular, can do to ensure success. He knows what is expected of him, just as Maradona knew two decades ago that he was expected to lead. But to those who believe Barca would be nothing without Messi, his Copa performances so far hint that those around him are equally as important an influence on him as he is at driving any team to victory.

This is not a poor Argentina team, by any stretch of the imagination, but there is no Xavi or Iniesta to create passing triangles with; no strikers of the selfless nature of Pedro and David Villa, nor indeed the overlapping, space-creating endeavours of Dani Alves on the right. Messi's disconsonant displays with Argentina say as much about his inability to adapt to his national team-mates as they do about the unique majesty of Barcelona, and highlight the delicate balance that is essential for a group of players to achieve great things."

It is not Messis fault. It's Pep Batistas fault for trying to play tiki-taka with the lack of players to do it. If he wants to do it, Pastore has to play. Aguero and Di Maria has too. Messis underperforming becouse of the stupid tactics.

And that is the reason I haven't been on that website since I joined here

jibers wrote:And that is the reason I haven't been on that website since I joined here

so in your opinion, what is Messi doing wrong, what should he do?
reaaons & solutions?

Goal.com, oh no.

:Speak bad of Messi

>Khaled comes in

People still read that terrible site lol?

Messi is failing for one reason and one reason alone, the tactics are piss poor i dont care how good you are but if you dont play a system to your strengths you will ultimately fail.

St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote::Speak bad of Messi

>Khaled comes in

LoOoOoOoOoOoL

btw do u have any info about Cameroon U-20 NT that will play in WC U-20?

i heard that Etock & Ella are included... i though that Dongou should be called he was better than Etock, although he just turned 16!

Messi can fail for several matches and he won't be a flop.



But when Chicharito fails for even one match.............

Khaledbarca wrote:

St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote::Speak bad of Messi

>Khaled comes in

LoOoOoOoOoOoL

btw do u have any info about Cameroon U-20 NT that will play in WC U-20?

i heard that Etock & Ella are included... i though that Dongou should be called he was better than Etock, although he just turned 16!

lol, i didnt see any of them on the 26 man list

Lord Hispano wrote:Messi can fail for several matches and he won't be a flop.



But when Chicharito fails for even one match.............

are u serious comparing Chicha to Messi

Exactly, Messi has been playing poorly and it is down to many reason but the main reasons are.

- No play maker
- Trying to play messi the same way he plays in barca
- No Xavi/Iniesta
- Trying to mimic how Barcelona plays just to suit messi.

Some ways to fix this.

change the line up to this

Zableta-Burdisso-Mascherano-Zaneti
Banega-Cambiasso-Pastore
Messi-Aguero-Tevez/Di maria

Dont put messi as a false 9, put in a real forward, and switch messi out to the wing. Don't try and mimic barcelona play ffs, and don't play just to cater to messi cater to the team.

St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:

Khaledbarca wrote:

St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote::Speak bad of Messi

>Khaled comes in

LoOoOoOoOoOoL

btw do u have any info about Cameroon U-20 NT that will play in WC U-20?

i heard that Etock & Ella are included... i though that Dongou should be called he was better than Etock, although he just turned 16!

lol, i didnt see any of them on the 26 man list

Hey Nick, whos that dude in your avatar?

Khaledbarca wrote:

Lord Hispano wrote:Messi can fail for several matches and he won't be a flop.



But when Chicharito fails for even one match.............

are u serious comparing Chicha to Messi

Love how you miss the point here.

Or at least pretend to.

Khaledbarca wrote:

Lord Hispano wrote:Messi can fail for several matches and he won't be a flop.



But when Chicharito fails for even one match.............

are u serious comparing Chicha to Messi

Not camparing them, just mentioning how a player like Messi can get away with bad performances while a player like Chicharito can be considered a flop or overrated because he didn't score in a CL final.

St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote::Speak bad of Messi

>Khaled comes in

and decapitates you with a >yellow card

St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:

Khaledbarca wrote:

St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote::Speak bad of Messi

>Khaled comes in

LoOoOoOoOoOoL

btw do u have any info about Cameroon U-20 NT that will play in WC U-20?

i heard that Etock & Ella are included... i though that Dongou should be called he was better than Etock, although he just turned 16!

lol, i didnt see any of them on the 26 man list

r u sure??

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This is my source:


Etock & Ella @ WC U-20 with Cameroon!


Barcelona’s famed training academy, La Masia, has been in the news recently as its past generations have combined to make a masterful team, as confirmed before a global audience in the UEFA Champions League final victory against Manchester United. But two current members of the academy are in line to make news in a different way: by participating in the upcoming FIFA U-20 World Cup in Colombia for Cameroon.

Both Armand Ella and Gael Etock are young Africans making waves in the junior structures of the Spanish club after being recommended to the European champions by its most famous African of recent times, Samuel Eto’o. A nimble attacker, Ella impressed at the African Youth Championship in April where Cameroon finished second to reach Colombia 2011. Etock is also a forward, one possessing a surprising turn of pace and an explosive technique. He is a player that has often been compared to Cameroon’s all-time leading score Eto’o. The highly-rated pair, however, represent just two of a myriad of internationally-based talent that Cameroon’s under-20 coach Martin Ndtoungou Mpile can chose from as he sits down in the next days to decide on his team for the championship.


Fresh from a tour of several European countries to select players for his squad, the coach has a remarkable panoply of youngsters to look at from clubs across the world. The sheer range of choices represents the wide swath of talented players that departed their home shores at a young age to seek their footballing fortunes around the globe.

More Info: http://www.fifa.com/u20worldcup/news/newsid=1444632/index.html?cid=twitter_u20worldcup

Lord Hispano wrote:

Khaledbarca wrote:

Lord Hispano wrote:Messi can fail for several matches and he won't be a flop.



But when Chicharito fails for even one match.............

are u serious comparing Chicha to Messi

Not camparing them, just mentioning how a player like Messi can get away with bad performances while a player like Chicharito can be considered a flop or overrated because he didn't score in a CL final.

the way he was playing in the last 2 seasons.. 100 goals & 42 Assist in 2 seasons ( 104 matches for barca, 3 consecutive season CL topscorer, magical goals etc.. u can always for give him, if he was not gd enough in the summer no??)...

Khaledbarca wrote:

Lord Hispano wrote:

Khaledbarca wrote:

Lord Hispano wrote:Messi can fail for several matches and he won't be a flop.



But when Chicharito fails for even one match.............

are u serious comparing Chicha to Messi

Not camparing them, just mentioning how a player like Messi can get away with bad performances while a player like Chicharito can be considered a flop or overrated because he didn't score in a CL final.

the way he was playing in the last 2 seasons.. 100 goals & 40 Assist in 2 seasons ( 102 matches for barca, u can always for give him, if he was not gd enough in the summer no??)...

Meh, Ive scored over 70 goals and gave like 20 assits in pes 2010

Khaledbarca wrote:the way he was playing in the last 2 seasons.. 100 goals & 40 Assist in 2 seasons ( 102 matches for barca, u can always for give him, if he was not gd enough in the summer no??)...

Relax man, I'm not berating Messi (but you seem like you overrate him a bit).


Anyway, I wouldn't justify Messi's performances as to me he has always shown the same weakness he's had since the beginning, He's got weak Mental skills.

Lord Hispano wrote:

Khaledbarca wrote:the way he was playing in the last 2 seasons.. 100 goals & 40 Assist in 2 seasons ( 102 matches for barca, u can always for give him, if he was not gd enough in the summer no??)...

Relax man, I'm not berating Messi (but you seem like you overrate him a bit).


Anyway, I wouldn't justify Messi's performances as to me he has always shown the same weakness he's had since the beginning, He's got weak Mental skills.

Indeed, scoring in 2 cl final and scoring against a 350m euro parked bus against the most defensive coach out there shows that or being his NT best player at the WC with a worse than average coach shows it...

harhar11 wrote:

Lord Hispano wrote:

Khaledbarca wrote:the way he was playing in the last 2 seasons.. 100 goals & 40 Assist in 2 seasons ( 102 matches for barca, u can always for give him, if he was not gd enough in the summer no??)...

Relax man, I'm not berating Messi (but you seem like you overrate him a bit).


Anyway, I wouldn't justify Messi's performances as to me he has always shown the same weakness he's had since the beginning, He's got weak Mental skills.

Indeed, scoring in 2 cl final and scoring against a 350m euro parked bus against the most defensive coach out there shows that or being his NT best player at the WC with a worse than average coach shows it...

Messi only scored after Pepe was wrongfully expulsed.

What can you say about his performance now then, Harhar?
Feeling the need to blame the rest of the team all of a sudden?
Sounds like a familiar tale.

Lord Hispano wrote:

harhar11 wrote:

Lord Hispano wrote:

Khaledbarca wrote:the way he was playing in the last 2 seasons.. 100 goals & 40 Assist in 2 seasons ( 102 matches for barca, u can always for give him, if he was not gd enough in the summer no??)...

Relax man, I'm not berating Messi (but you seem like you overrate him a bit).


Anyway, I wouldn't justify Messi's performances as to me he has always shown the same weakness he's had since the beginning, He's got weak Mental skills.

Indeed, scoring in 2 cl final and scoring against a 350m euro parked bus against the most defensive coach out there shows that or being his NT best player at the WC with a worse than average coach shows it...

Messi only scored after Pepe was wrongfully expulsed.

What can you say about his performance now then, Harhar?
Feeling the need to blame the rest of the team all of a sudden?
Sounds like a familiar tale.

Pepe was rightly expulsed(you can hear the impact) but lets not go into it.

The whole team is playing bad. I mean messi is forced to do xavis iniestas and david villas role all by himself for argentina. How do you expect him to do that all by himself when there is none in the whole world who can do that?

Please don't turn this into another Barcelona vs Real Madrid debate.

Messi just isn't the godlike player everyone thinks he is. He can only play amazing on Barcelona, and he takes long to adapt to the way other teams play because he only knows how to play one way; the barcelona way.

FilipeFerreira wrote:Please don't turn this into another Barcelona vs Real Madrid debate.

You're a bit too late. Those two can never get over each other.