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Re: Why doesn't Benzema leave Madrid?

Post by Hapless_Hans on Sat Aug 08, 2015 2:22 pm

Thread title is the wrong question. Instead of "why doesn't" it should say "when does".

Answer is, close to deadline day.

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Re: Why doesn't Benzema leave Madrid?

Post by Doc on Sat Aug 08, 2015 4:12 pm

On a serious note: Benzema is doing quite fine at Madrid. There isn't much genuine reason for him to leave nor is the club in need to sell him, anymore. Even the fans have warmed up to him and has become a very integral part of the team. Arsenal is a lovely club but Madrid offers the same thing and more. It would, no disrespect implied, be an actual step down.

On a more incredibly serious note: Arsenal have enough midfielders.

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Re: Why doesn't Benzema leave Madrid?

Post by Lomka on Sat Aug 08, 2015 6:04 pm

maybe he hates weather of England? everyday rain? maybe its hard to make new friends? yeah i agree he has pussy mentality he doesnt want the hard way

Neymar has the chance because Messi is getting old

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Re: Why doesn't Benzema leave Madrid?

Post by VivaStPauli on Sat Aug 08, 2015 7:14 pm

I miss the days when "the hard way" was sticking with your home town club, or at least with the club where you had your breakthrough.

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Re: Why doesn't Benzema leave Madrid?

Post by chad4401 on Sat Aug 08, 2015 7:21 pm

firstly gil rofl, anyway benzema doesn't really have much to prove or anything, but its pretty clear he simply like the club a lot and been a fan for a long time, how many players would put up with stupid fans agenda's every week Laughing and hardly ever complains.

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Re: Why doesn't Benzema leave Madrid?

Post by Mr Nick09 on Sat Aug 08, 2015 8:50 pm

@chad4401 wrote:firstly gil rofl, anyway benzema doesn't really have much to prove or anything, but its pretty clear he simply like the club a lot and been a fan for a long time, how many players would put up with stupid fans agenda's every week Laughing and hardly ever complains.
yes he does have a lot to do or to prove, i mean, if we are speaking about leaving a trace in history here, what has he achieved or led his teams to achieve? nothing that he can be siingled out for and praised for in 20 years.

But it's ok if you consider that not every player need that kind of legacy, so in that way, he has nothing to prove and he can carry on being a great player and not much else.

But for someone who keeps on speaking about how his dream is to win the golden ball one day, he is not even remotely close to that, and he never has. Has he ever been top 3?

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Re: Why doesn't Benzema leave Madrid?

Post by Gil on Sat Aug 08, 2015 9:04 pm

Spot on Nick & Hames. It's easy to collude at Madrid & ride Ronaldo's cottails to titles but go down as a sideman who didn't live up to his initial billing if he stays at Madrid.

Andy Cole won way more than Alan Shearer did, who do you think history will remember more though?
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Re: Why doesn't Benzema leave Madrid?

Post by LeSwagg James on Sat Aug 08, 2015 10:07 pm

He's waiting for Cristiano to leave first, then the team will be his Twisted Evil

He's only 27 btw

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Re: Why doesn't Benzema leave Madrid?

Post by chad4401 on Sat Aug 08, 2015 11:32 pm

@nick i don't know why you or anyone else feels benzema won't be remembered, as a fact.... get off your high horses brah.

im pretty sure if he stays 2 or 3 more seasons, he is gonna be top 10-5 scorer in the cl and madrid history, while on his way to being a clasico goat as well.

benzema has showed up and shown a lot of desire to lead us to victory plenty of times, especially when cr does nothing whole game, fans like you and AS reporters will never respect or even acknowledged it, just to say he never did anything or hide from the fact that so many was wrong about him.

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Re: Why doesn't Benzema leave Madrid?

Post by Mr Nick09 on Sat Aug 08, 2015 11:43 pm

im not saying he will be outright forgotten, he has some milestones to his name like his goals in CL and that kind of things.

I am saying that for a player who aspired to win a golden ball in career, he is failing flat on his face, as he has never even been top 3 so far.

Has he shown anything to be remembered as an all time top 3 kind of CF for France? heck no. Has he shown the same for Madrid? nope.

THat's the kind of legacy we are speaking of here, he is not far, but he needs to show a lot more to be in those conversations. He doesnt need to, but if that's the case then Gil has the right to say what he says.

He may postulate to be part of the league of sidekicks extraordinaires, whose international ambassador is Pippen. that's cool too.

ps: Please do not ever again put Ronaldo in comparison to Benzema in a legacy conversation, that's embarrassing.

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Re: Why doesn't Benzema leave Madrid?

Post by chad4401 on Sat Aug 08, 2015 11:58 pm

rofl lets not start overrating cr here please, the amount of dogshit games he plays and get motm for some freaking tap ins Laughing.

CR is the exactly the reason why the team doesn't win anything, cause he has to be the one who wins the team everything even when he is being mediocre, and making us lose valuable points and ties Proud, but that hunger for goals is the stuff of legend right? rofl

Plus he such a coward if the fans boo him he will threaten to leave immediately and flo has to step to protect his feelings Sad.

cr is such a pleb he gave up on being a complete player, just to score goals to be relevant, as ramos said "your nothing without your petty goals", take the blinders off before you try and school me about any player in the squad ever.

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Re: Why doesn't Benzema leave Madrid?

Post by futbol on Sun Aug 09, 2015 12:01 am

@chad4401 wrote:rofl lets not start overrating cr here please, the amount of dogshit games he plays and get motm for some freaking tap ins Laughing.

CR is the exactly the reason why the team doesn't win anything, cause he has to be the one who wins the team everything even when he is being mediocre, and making us lose valuable points and ties Proud, but that hunger for goals is the stuff of legend right? rofl

Plus he such a coward if the fans boo him he will threaten to leave immediately and flo has to step to protect his feelings Sad.

cr is such a pleb he gave up on being a complete player, just to score goals to be relevant, as ramos said "your nothing without your petty goals", take the blinders off before you try and school me about any player in the squad ever.


This is why chad is one of the most knowledgeable posters on GL. Keep it up, chad. Thumbs up

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Re: Why doesn't Benzema leave Madrid?

Post by Myesyats on Sun Aug 09, 2015 12:05 am

@futbol wrote:This is why chad is one of the most knowledgeable posters on GL. Keep it up, chad. Thumbs up

Chad :bow:

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Re: Why doesn't Benzema leave Madrid?

Post by Mr Nick09 on Sun Aug 09, 2015 12:10 am

@chad4401 wrote:rofl lets not start overrating cr here please, the amount of dogshit games he plays and get motm for some freaking tap ins Laughing.

CR is the exactly the reason why the team doesn't win anything, cause he has to be the one who wins the team everything even when he is being mediocre, and making us lose valuable points and ties Proud, but that hunger for goals is the stuff of legend right? rofl

Plus he such a coward if the fans boo him he will threaten to leave immediately and flo has to step to protect his feelings Sad.

cr is such a pleb he gave up on being a complete player, just to score goals to be relevant, as ramos said "your nothing without your petty goals", take the blinders off before you try and school me about any player in the squad ever.
my world... yes, CR specialized his game, he wasnt interested in becoming "complete" or whatever that means to you, because he is as complete a scorer as the game has ever seen.

CR isnt the one building the team, because it's pretty easy to balance out a team, but when on top of CR you decide to sign 4 AMs, then there is no way you can build a balanced squad. Dont put the failings of management on him because had they gone for different player profiles to make sure that his strength and weaknesses are enhanced and compensated, we would have had more trophies. The one season when we played Di Maria in support of his side, the team reached balance, that says a lot...

This is an argument about personal greatness, CR regardless of whether you like him or not, is a great of the game. Benzema is not even close, and the simple fact that you entertain such idea id comical.

The blinders are off, i see clearly, you however are comparing CR to Benzema. Now tell me, is Benzema one of the top 3 best striker in france history?

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Re: Why doesn't Benzema leave Madrid?

Post by Myesyats on Sun Aug 09, 2015 12:16 am

@Lomka wrote:maybe he hates weather of England? everyday rain? maybe its hard to make new friends? yeah i agree he has pussy mentality he doesnt want the hard way

Neymar has the chance because Messi is getting old

I don't understand how this refers to anything in this thread hmm

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Re: Why doesn't Benzema leave Madrid?

Post by sportsczy on Sun Aug 09, 2015 12:23 am

Strikers? He is. France hasn't had many great strikers. We had Kopa, Henry, Trezeguet, Benzema, Papin and Rocheteau. That's pretty much it. Cantona and Ginola were blacklisted. Kopa is all alone on top. Henry is second just because of his goal totals although he was mostly crap when it counted on NT. The rest is a matter of preference.

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Re: Why doesn't Benzema leave Madrid?

Post by chad4401 on Sun Aug 09, 2015 12:24 am

first of all if cr could be as complete a players as much as goal scorer, he would have cause he has a huge ego, he simply can't and no matter which way you slice he overall game is garbage, some of you need to stop acting like he on the pitch acting messi like cause he not.

have seen hundreds of games from cr when he can't make 2 passes or dribble a player and miss a lot of clear goals, scores a brace at end, to make it 5-0, here come the experts, "he is the best goal scorer ever!!!" yeah right one of the greatest cons in history, achieve nothing scores goals you get a pass, cause you tend to get into your feelings like a girl, cause the bdo is more important than la liga, take off the blinders champ.

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Re: Why doesn't Benzema leave Madrid?

Post by urbaNRoots on Sun Aug 09, 2015 12:30 am

Amazingly enough I agree with OP here, a move would not only be beneficial financially but for his career aswell. He has won all the big club level trophies there are, all he has to do now is enter history but he will not be able to do that with Real Madrid where he is overshadowed by even Ramos let alone CR.

It could help his NT career aswell, having to work in a different league with a different mentality and for once be the man up front regularly.
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Re: Why doesn't Benzema leave Madrid?

Post by M99 on Sun Aug 09, 2015 12:32 am

@sportsczy wrote:Strikers?  He is.  France hasn't had many great strikers.  We had Kopa, Henry, Trezeguet, Benzema, Papin and Rocheteau.  That's pretty much it.  Cantona and Ginola were blacklisted.  Kopa is all alone on top.  Henry is second just because of his goal totals although he was mostly crap when it counted on NT.  The rest is a matter of preference.


Top 3 French striker? No way. Henry, Fontaine, Cantona (why should his club record be ignored?), Papin, Trezeguet are all ahead of him. He is 27, he can be a top 3 for them but as of now no way.

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Re: Why doesn't Benzema leave Madrid?

Post by sportsczy on Sun Aug 09, 2015 12:34 am

Hr doesn't like change Urbie... At all. He actually gave Aulas the option of keeping him if he matched Madrid's wage offer and Aulas couldn't. Aulas said at the time "we cannot compete financially with Madrid".

I also don't think he wanted to leave the year before the Euro. Next summer might be the one.

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Re: Why doesn't Benzema leave Madrid?

Post by sportsczy on Sun Aug 09, 2015 12:35 am

Well in France they only rate strikers by how they do with nt. Club performance is pretty irrelevant. Trezeguet has an argument but rarely started due to Henry. Similar to Djorkaeff playing behind Zidane.

Forgot Fontaine.

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Re: Why doesn't Benzema leave Madrid?

Post by Lord Spencer on Sun Aug 09, 2015 12:45 am

Benz who?

If you are talking about overall legacy....

In France, Benz is not even close to the best French players discussions.

In Portugal, CR is considered the second best player after Eusebio (hope I spelled it right).

In Madrid, CR already broke a lot of records in a short amount of time, I hear about it all the time despite not following Madrid. All I know about Benz in Madrid is the Dmzema joke which even Goal.com parrots from us.

Personally, CR's statues as the second fiddle to Messi would remain for a long time. He is still fondly remembered in United as well. Benz's only victory is ousting choke-artist Higuain from Madrid (which is admittedly and incredible feat).

Of course, to understand any of this, you probably need to know what "legacy" means, which apparently you really don't as seen from your arguments.
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Re: Why doesn't Benzema leave Madrid?

Post by sportsczy on Sun Aug 09, 2015 12:51 am

Really?  You do realize that Benz has more goals than CR against Barca. He has 7 or 8.  Been our beat player in classics by far the last 2-3 seasons.  He's also scored the most goals in CL other than messi and Cr during his span of years at Madrid.

He's nowhere near the level of CR.  But he has been the most consistent CF in the world since 2010.  20+ goals and 10+ assists every season.

His criticism is not big games.  He excels there.  His criticism is against chump teams...  He doesn't carry the same concentration.

And everyone is criticized in France other than platini and zidane lol.

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Re: Why doesn't Benzema leave Madrid?

Post by chad4401 on Sun Aug 09, 2015 12:59 am

@spencer no one is trying to overrate benz here, but he isn't some sidekick ball passer either, he did well for france at the world cup and easily was their best player, but lets focus on the bad, if benz does fine at the euro's his NT record will even itself out.

the funny thing i wouldn't even mind the move, if it means an end to the hate tbh.

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Re: Why doesn't Benzema leave Madrid?

Post by Doc on Sun Aug 09, 2015 1:13 am

So one disrespects and disregards Ronaldo's accomplishments and legacy while trying to legitimize Benzema's own. Sigh.

I am of the belief Benzema would do enough at Madrid (and in football by large) to be fondly remembered. To forge his own legacy. Sports mentioning Karim doesn't like change explains his initial seasons at Madrid. Successful in numbers but he never became authoritative as he is now. As long as he continues his lovely form or it gets better, he'll definitely be remembered the same way as Kopa and his ilk at Madrid.

Side note, didn't know France doesn't "rate" Fontaine Sad

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Re: Why doesn't Benzema leave Madrid?

Post by sportsczy on Sun Aug 09, 2015 1:25 am

I forgot Fontaine lol. Of course he's rated. Benz is top 6-7. Fontaine, kopa and Henry are far ahead as top 3. I'd put trezeguet 4th. Papin 5th. After that, it's between rocheteau and Benz.

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