Re: Real Madrid trying to buy referees in Spain?

by Harmonica Wed Oct 21, 2015 11:06 pm

Lets see if Franchise, Real Gunner and few other poor suckers to come here and say it'll all even out eventually now. Laughing

by futbol Wed Oct 21, 2015 11:35 pm

We got Refdrid by the balls. :bow:

by LeVersacci Wed Oct 21, 2015 11:37 pm

@RealGunner you gon extract that?

by halamadrid2 Thu Oct 22, 2015 7:09 am

Why would we need favouring when Barcas defence is at its worst Laughing

by Harmonica Thu Oct 22, 2015 12:30 pm

This needs it's own thread now as things start to update:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3283762/El-Clasico-corruption-storm-linesman-claims-told-favour-Real-Madrid-month-s-clash-Barcelona.html

El Clasico in corruption storm as linesman claims he was told to favour Real Madrid in next month's clash with Barcelona

A potential match-fixing scandal has engulfed next month’s Clasico after a linesman complained to Spanish police that he had been told to favour Real Madrid by the matchday referee.

The identities of the match officials involved are being kept private for fear of reprisals against them but anti-corruption officials are understood to be taking the claims seriously.

The match officials for the Real Madrid against Barcelona fixture have not yet been confirmed but it is understood that one of the linesmen for the match had been contacted by the referee who told him that the refereeing committee were putting pressure on them to favour Real.

El Clasico, the game between Real Madrid and Barcelona, is at the centre of a match-fixing storm

A linesman has claimed he was told to favour Real Madrid for next month's La Liga clash.

Jose Angel Jimenez Munoz de Morales, a member of the referees' committee, is then accused of calling the linesman in question to apply extra pressure once it was made clear to him that the match official was not interested in following the alleged request to make biased calls against Barcelona.

Munoz de Morales responded to the claims on Wednesday night saying: ‘I have no idea where they come from. It is like something out of a Kafka novel’.
Atletico Madrid coach Diego Simeone caused a storm at the start of the season when he implied the league would be made easier for Real Madrid to win this year.

Simeone said in an interview: ‘The league is dangerously prepared for Real Madrid. Madrid cannot go seven years with only winning one league. This year I think that sadly it is difficult to see another team winning it.

Madrid were furious at the suggested conspiracy and many of their supporters point to the fact that their team have only been awarded one penalty so far this season while Barcelona have been given seven as proof that there is no favoritism.

Real will point to the fact that they have not had the rub of the green with refereeing decisions this season.

Atletico Madrid manager Diego Simeone claimed the league was 'dangerously prepared' for Real this season.

On Thursday, Spanish daily Mundo Deportivo ran the headline 'Bombshell!' before making three key front page points, the first being that, 'A linesman, who wants to remain anonymous, denounces the Referees Technical Committee to the Anticorruption Office.'
The second suggests the official in question, 'points to a former colleague with a Falangist past, his lawyer says that is not the only case, and the Civil Guard investigates.'
And 'according to him, the referees have received pressure to favour Madrid in the next Clasico on November 21.'

Meanwhile, fellow Spanish newspaper Sport leads with the headline 'Clasico under suspicion' before saying, 'an assistant referee complains of the pressure to prejudice against Barca.'

Vicente (lawyer linesman): "My client was told that he shouldn't worry about influencing game, that this had already happened before." [rac1]

Vicente (lawyer linesman): "My client said he was told he'd get a lower ranking if he didn't agree to favour Madrid in clasico." [rac1]

Vicente (lawyer linesman): "Other linesmen were also pressurized. Let's see if they also denounce it. Two or three could in coming days."

Vicente (lawyer linesman): "He wanted the story out there already. He was heavily pressurized and he decided to act now." [md]

note: linesman asked lawyer not to be named in complaint, but second linesman in the case is working with referee gonzalez gonzalez

note - document: complaint regarding pressure on linesman to favour madrid ahead of clasico at bernabeu in november http://www.cope.es/docs/2015/10/21/19370001_94_36_0.pdf …

Madrid radio Cope confirms story about a complaint regarding pressure on linesman. They name member referee committee and publish document.

Threatened linesman filed formal complaint with anti-corruption prosecutor and Spanish police is now investigating the case. [l'esportiu]

The idea is for the linesman to make the wrong calls, because it causes less upset than when the referee himself makes them. [l'esportiu]

Another linesman, from another referee trio, would also have been given the same instructions to favour Madrid in upcoming clasico. [l'esp]

When linesman refused, he got phone call from inside Spanish federation threatening him that his career could end soon. [l'esportiu]

Linesman got told by his referee that he had been given instructions from referee committee to benefit Madrid in upcoming clasico. [l'esp]

Funnily Barca lost 13-14 La Liga with this Messi goal wrongfully called as offside:

by The Demon of Carthage Thu Oct 22, 2015 1:24 pm

I have only one thing to say to the Barça officials who are trying so hard to destabilize Madrid: Give it your best shot Laughing

by Thimmy Thu Oct 22, 2015 2:34 pm

by Myesyats Thu Oct 22, 2015 3:27 pm

Linesman denounced he was pressured to favor Real Madrid in the upcoming Clásico

Cardenal (president Spanish Sports Council): "The linesman should come forward. This is 2015, no one should be afraid of retaliation."

Almost impossible to win with Perez but it's worth a shot.

by Dnmac4 Thu Oct 22, 2015 3:39 pm

Par for the course if you watch La Liga. It's Spain's dirty little secret, You see how no-one is actually shocked or surprised at this?

Diego Simeone basically said the same thing before the season started not being as specific of course but generally saying the league will make sure Real win this year.

by izzy Thu Oct 22, 2015 3:51 pm

Once a village club, ALWAYS a village club. rofl

by Harmonica Thu Oct 22, 2015 4:07 pm

Dnmac4 wrote:Par for the course if you watch La Liga. It's Spain's dirty little secret, You see how no-one is actually shocked or surprised at this?

Diego Simeone basically said the same thing before the season started not being as specific of course but generally saying the league will make sure Real win this year.

This has potential also expose Real Madrid media, that's owned directly by Real Madrid or indirectly effecting major part of it's advertisement money by click&pay from the fan base.

Spanish, English and German media are already reporting it, goal.com isn't. goal.com already shamelessly announced that they have a deal with Bayern Munich, so nobody isn't surprised this isn't yet posted in that site. They have a long had a shamelessly biased approach when it comes to Madrid over Barcelona and Cronaldo over Messi.

by farfan Thu Oct 22, 2015 4:11 pm

Dnmac4 wrote:
Diego Simeone basically said the same thing before the season started not being as specific of course but generally saying the league will make sure Real win this year.

lol at people using this as some sort of proof .
you don't see the logical absurdity in quoting disparaging and accusatory comments made by the coach of a rival team ? Laughing

did you give any credence to Mourinho's claim that Barça was helped by referees ? ... didn't think so .

by Harmonica Thu Oct 22, 2015 4:18 pm

farfan wrote:
Dnmac4 wrote:
Diego Simeone basically said the same thing before the season started not being as specific of course but generally saying the league will make sure Real win this year.

lol at people using this as some sort of proof .
you don't see the logical absurdity in quoting disparaging and accusatory comments made by the coach of a rival team ?

did you give any credence to Mourinho's claim that Barça was helped by referees ? ... didn't think so .

Anyone can see how league was prepared for Real from the start, the calendar was prepared against Barcelona. After 3 tough cup games, 3 tough league games, where Barca were denied 6 penalties. Usually both team have had easy opponents from the start. But they failed with their approach when Barca could win, just, these matches and Real lost points the same. Real was supposed to be ahead at this point.

You understand now why thinking logically is the correct thing to do, even if it's against your heroes? Logic and truthful thinking is always right, all these years I've shown the bias with concrete evidence and logic in Spain, and now finally we have officials providing the proof.

Learn how to think logically, truthfully and you will always be right and win every debate.

by Doc Thu Oct 22, 2015 4:23 pm

linetty wrote:Linesman denounced he was pressured to favor Real Madrid in the upcoming Clásico

So this has turned out to be a much ado about nothing then?

by Harmonica Thu Oct 22, 2015 4:26 pm

Cardenal (president Spanish Sports Council): "The linesman should come forward. This is 2015, no one should be afraid of retaliation."

Suspect

by Doc Thu Oct 22, 2015 4:31 pm

halamadrid2 wrote:Why would we need favouring when Barcas defence is at its worst

In case Barcelona get a beating akin to what they got in Vigo, there is an already built in excuse about referees and linesmen.

by Myesyats Thu Oct 22, 2015 4:40 pm

Madrid are being favoured since I can remember. All this shit should have seen daylight way earlier. Perez's effort is for nothing doe because they'll again win jack shit.

by Freeza Thu Oct 22, 2015 4:42 pm

Every freaking week we get a new thread about this

That Simeone quote as evidence rofl

by Pedram Thu Oct 22, 2015 4:45 pm

OP needs a tinfoil hat.

by Lucifer Thu Oct 22, 2015 4:47 pm

Rigging games and still not winning league :facepalm:

by Freeza Thu Oct 22, 2015 4:51 pm

Pirloisjesus wrote:Rigging games and still not winning league

We're just rigging it so Barca can't win (:

It's all a ploy to get Ronaldo to score more and win Balon D'or over Messi. The League is not the objective (:

by Hapless_Hans Thu Oct 22, 2015 4:58 pm

Pirloisjesus wrote:Rigging games and still not winning league

by Hapless_Hans Thu Oct 22, 2015 5:00 pm

Harmonica wrote:
Spanish, English and German media are already reporting it, goal.com isn't. goal.com already shamelessly announced that they have a deal with Bayern Munich, so nobody isn't surprised this isn't yet posted in that site. .

Rummenigge: "Florentino Perez is a gentleman, not a gambler"

hmm

coincidence? OR NOT?

by Doc Thu Oct 22, 2015 5:19 pm

And if and when Madrid does win "jack shit", you guys and I mean Barcelona Village FC fans, would have your built in excuses. It's actually a wonderful cop out honestly. If Barcelona wins, they earned it, lolz, 8 years and counting Mehdrid. If Madrid wins, they cheated and we are helpless in the face of such tyranny, Refdrid.

by farfan Thu Oct 22, 2015 5:29 pm

Freeza wrote:

Every freaking week we get a new thread about this

That Simeone quote as evidence

quoting a biased source as evidence to support your case is called " logic " you noob . Proud

by EarlyPrototype Thu Oct 22, 2015 6:24 pm

The number of penalties Farca have had this season is shocking. It's almost as if they are trying their hardest to deflect their corruption this season. Can't expect anymore from them.

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