Ancelotti's next gig

Mr Nick09 wrote:

MR BOND wrote:

Mr Nick09 wrote:
he kept repeating the same dumb tactics with no adjustment.

Simeone just rimmed him

I take it atletico parked the bus. and Ronaldo had about 30 shots and didn't score.

u barely watch la liga, still amazes me people still having football arguments with u on these topics

im not arguing. I asked you a question. when ever I saw AM play in big games they played more like Chelsea than thay did barca. so I asked if yu had all the play. and thay parked the bus.

Question is

Rafa or Klopp

Madrid won't win anything until they get rid of the cancer that rots the left wing.

sportsczy wrote:Accommodating Bale while sacrificing Benzema, Isco and James did him in imo.  We were playing beautiful footy.  Then Bale came back and he moved 3 of our top performers around to make room for him....  those 3 were still good mostly (until Isco and Benz got burnt out) but nowhere the godly level they were at before.

I never understood that.  If the team is playing at god level, you don't change the ENTIRE SYSTEM to accommodate a player who isn't even anywhere near as talented as those 3.

He stuck with the failed system in the face of the obvious, which was even worse.

tbh. it does seem that people other than the manager has a input into picking the team.

Rafa because he is a kid from home, has been at the club, perez has wanted him before, and he speaks spanish.

Perez in his conference hinted that "it would be nice if the new manager speaks castellano"

unless he is throwing us off, he is right that it makes it easier for the team when majority speaks spanish to communicate ideas from day one, in the tone that you want. plus he speaks english for bale

Rafa is the sure thing imo, Klopp is too exotic and since Mou, Perez keeps going for the sure thing...

Mr Nick09 wrote:Rafa because he is a kid from home, has been at the club, perez has wanted him before, and he speaks spanish.

Perez in his conference hinted that "it would be nice if the new manager speaks castellano"

unless he is throwing us off, he is right that it makes it easier for the team when majority speaks spanish to communicate ideas from day one, in the tone that you want. plus he speaks english for bale

Rafa is the sure thing imo, Klopp is too exotic and since Mou, Perez keeps going for the sure thing...

rafa speeks good English as well. good news for bale.

Is that a facht?

Pseudo wrote:Madrid won't win anything until they get rid of the cancer that rots the left wing.

Agreed, Marcelo has to go.

RealGunner wrote:Question is

Rafa or Unai

Fixed.

Apparently they want a Spanish coach

weare shopping for a left back i think can janmaat play on the left?

As Carlo Ancelotti is relieved of his duties at Real Madrid, we look back on the 11 managers who have tried and failed to hold down a regular spot in the Bernabeu dugout in the 21st century.

Ancelotti’s time is up after committing the ultimate sin – not winning La Liga, the Copa del Rey or Champions League this season. In the last 32 years, not one Real Madrid manager has earned another season having won nothing the previous.

Memories are short, and despite winning Real’s 10th Champions League crown last term, Ancelotti’s third personally, the failure to progress in 2014/15 has cost him.
He joins a high-profile club – the tenure of Miguel Munoz, who oversaw Real to nine La Liga titles, two European Cups and two Copa del Rey trophies from 1960 to 1974, is not just remembered for the trophy haul.


Over four decades on, and no Real Madrid manager since has held their post for longer than three-and-a-half years, let alone the 14 Munoz had in charge.

Vicente del Bosque was the last, winning the Champions League twice between November 1999 and June 2003 before Real decided against renewing his contract.
In the 41 years since Munoz left the club, the 31 full-time Real managers have lasted an average of one year and four months, or 70 games.

Here, we look at those last 11 full-time managers since 1999, their win percentages, and their honours list.

Vicente del Bosque – November 1999 to June 2003 (contract not renewed) – 233 games, 55 per cent won – Honours: 2 La LIga, 2 Champions League, 1 UEFA Super Cup, 1 Spanish Super Cup, 1 Intercontinental Cup

Carlos Queiroz – June 2003 to May 2004 (sacked) – 59 games, 58 per cent won – Honours: 1 Spanish Super Cup

Jose Antonio Camacho – May 2004 to September 2004 (resigned) – 6 games, 67 per cent won – Honours: None.
Mariano Garcia Remon – September 2004 to December 2004 (demoted to coach) – 20 games, 60 per cent won – Honours: None.

Vanderlei Luxemburgo – December 2004 to December 2005 (sacked) – 45 games, 62 per cent won – Honours: None.

Juan Ramon Lopez Caro (caretaker) – December 2005 to June 2006 – 24 games, 50 per cent won – Honours: None.

Fabio Capello – July 2006 to June 2007 (sacked) – 50 games, 56 per cent won – Honours: 1 La Liga

Bernd Schuster – July 2007 to December 2008 (mutual agreement) – 75 games, 59 per cent won – Honours 1 La Liga, 1 Spanish Super Cup
Juande Ramos – December 2008 to June 2009 (end of contract) – 27 games, 67 per cent won – Honours: None.

Manuel Pellegrini – June 2009 to May 2010 (sacked) – 48 games, 75 per cent won – Honours: None.

Jose Mourinho – May 2010 to June 2013 (mutual agreement) – 178 games, 72 per cent won – Honours; 1 La Liga, 1 Copa del Rey, 1 Spanish Super Cup

Carlo Ancelotti – June 2013 to May 2015 (sacked) – 119 games, 75 per cent won – Honours: 1 Copa del Rey, 1 Champions League, 1 Club World Cup, 1 Copa del Rey.

Andre Santos can be yours for the price of a replica RVP shirt, Nick

Bigger thing is that Rafa likes the 4231... maybe he morphs it into a 4222. In either case, you need a workhorse B2B or DM. I also think it means that one of Bale, Ronaldo or Benzema will get sold either this summer or over the winter (whoever is benched). There's no way you will see BBC imo.

Yeah let's hire the poor man's version of the guy we just sacked

Mr Nick09 wrote:weare shopping for a left back i think can janmaat play on the left?

Not sure, he's played CB and RB for us.

Rafa and Carlo play ENTIRELY different systems... just night and day. Rafa is much close to Mou in the way he plays. Less defensive (although still defensive) but the same shape.

El Shaarawy wrote:

RealGunner wrote:Question is

Pep or Pep

Fixed.

Apparently they want a Spanish coach

Fixed.

Real president Florentino Perez.


What did Ancelotti do wrong? I don't know.


jesus wept you couldent make it up. he fired the man then says he don't know what he did wrong.

MR BOND wrote:Real president Florentino Perez.


What did Ancelotti do wrong? I don't know.


jesus wept you couldent make it up. he fired the man then says he don't know what he did wrong.    

another example of people reading stuff on twitter and acting as if they know stuff

he was first asked the reasons why carlo was being sacked, and he said he did not want to discuss them at the moment.

then shortly after, the same question to which he answered "i dont know"

...Context

he was never going to say something bad about carlo in that interview

Mr Nick09 wrote:

MR BOND wrote:Real president Florentino Perez.


What did Ancelotti do wrong? I don't know.


jesus wept you couldent make it up. he fired the man then says he don't know what he did wrong.    

another example of people reading stuff on twitter and acting as if they know stuff

he was first asked the reasons why carlo was being sacked, and he said he did not want to discuss them at the moment.

then shortly after, the same question to which he answered "i dont know"

...Context

he was never going to say something bad about carlo in that interview

I saw it on ssn.

Real Madrid have terminated the contract of manager Carlo Ancelotti after two seasons in charge.

Club president Florentino Perez announced the decision in a press conference on Monday as the popular Italian paid the price for a trophyless season at the Santiago Bernabeu.

"I would like to inform you that the board has taken the decision to relieve Carlo Ancelotti of his post as Real Madrid coach," Perez said. "It was a very difficult decision to make; the demands at this club are the utmost because Madrid always wants to win silverware.


"The affection that the players and the fans have for Carlo is the same as the affection I myself have for him.


"What did Ancelotti do wrong? I don't know. The demands here at Real Madrid are very high."

what's he supposed to say in a press conference about the firing?
"Carletto smelled bad"?!

it's clear as day he did not want to say anything negative about carlo.

how you lack the intelligence to understand that at your age is baffling

Bond, you truly need to wait a few minutes before commenting.

"What went wrong?" was the question you mistakingly took for another one, and to which Florentino responded “I don’t know; I don’t want to enter into details. Now is not the right moment. I will dedicate time to other matters”.

It seems that you've developed a habit of facepalming yourself every time you chance upon something to your liking.

Mr Nick09 wrote:it's clear as day he did not want to say anything negative about carlo.

how you lack the intelligence to understand that at your age is baffling

for the president of Madrid to fire the manager then say I don't know what he did wrong is baffling. maybe instead of talking shit. he should have said nothing.

Cant believe this guy is rambling on and on.Why are so you bothered mate ?

The Demon of Carthage wrote:Bond, you truly need to wait a few minutes before commenting.

"What went wrong?" was the question you mistakingly took for another one, and to which Florentino responded “I don’t know; I don’t want to enter into details. Now is not the right moment. I will dedicate time to other matters”.

It seems that you've developed a habit of facepalming yourself every time you chance upon something to your liking.

and you need to read before you reply. I said I saw it on ssn and I cut and pasted it. none of that stuff came from me. if its wrong then blame sky.