Oliver Kahn, An Impenetrable Fortress

TetraHydroC 10 wrote:Cosign! I love how he assumes he can challenge anyone on the forum. It's now my dream to put together a GL forum team and finally be able to end huntsman. I swear I'm going to try and make this happen, it's our only chance to see the humiliation on his face. Although, I'm sure after we beat the brakes off him he will have excuses :lol!:

Crimson wrote:Out of curiosity.......How old are you Huntsman?

huntsman wrote:

Crimson wrote:Out of curiosity.......How old are you Huntsman?

What does this have to do with anything? I have already mentioned my age before.

How old are you?

TetraHydroC 10 wrote:

VivaStPauli wrote:Seriously, comparing Kahn to Casillas is like comparing Baggio to Walcott.

huntsman wrote:

Lord Spencer wrote:First, apparently you do not understand the basics of football, because both Kahn and Buffon made similar errors.

I know and understand very weell the basics of football. I guarantee that i can out-play anyone of you madrid fans in a real match of football. Infact, give me a goalkeeper and one defender / 3 players including me, against a team of 11 and i promise i can beat you with a dozen goals in 15 mins. My point is not to show off my talents but to tell you that you're wrong. I understand the basics of football.

Kahn and Buffon might have made errors, but the amount of errors they made is much less than iker and the quality of errors is different.

Lord Spencer wrote:GK experts all around the world put Iker in top 10 list of GK of the last 20 years, and yet you come around with some youtube video and pretend the knowledge you get from it is equal to the knowledge you get from watching the man in action for 9000 minutes.

Show me a list of what you're claiming. Unless GK experts are wrong, there is no such list.

I didnt pretend that the knowledge i get from watching a couple of youtube vids is equal to that of men watching 9000 minutes, because in many times, my knowledge surpasses it. It's a talent i picked down the road. I can even tell that i know you better than anyone here knows you already.

Lord Spencer wrote:Youtube videos are not Statically Significant, they are too short for any proper analysis.
If Iker was the best in both departments as you claim, then RM would not have won anything for the duration Iker was between the posts. Since they always had a terrible defense.

Everything is significant, the devil is in the details. As someone else mentioned before me, achievments are not everything. Casillas lacks all the defining aspects of a real goalkeeper. I dont want to go to extents of claiming, even I make a better goalie than him given 6 months of training to gain back my form.

Lord Spencer wrote:You have the opinion that Iker is rubbish, and yet you broadcast it as fact. It is not fact, here is a lesson for you, not everything you believe is fact. Learn to learn. Watching youtube videos making poor judgment on players based on 9 minutes of highlight footage is ridiculous.

The fact that a GK who saves 10 shots and spills the11th is suddenly labeled as crap because that spill was the only thing in highlights is ridicilous.

Your stastics are not accurate. And you keep forgetting the most important point i have made about why iker is not a real goalie. It is not the 10 shots (quantity) he saves but rather the quality and frequency of those mistakes.

Lord Spencer wrote:
If you do not respond to these questions we are asking you with proper analysis, and only if:

1- Then admit you are a troll.
2- Then admit you know nothing about football, and cease to post fantasy opinions.

There is not way around it huntsamn, you either contribute with actual analysis, or pick one of the above.

If you don't contribute with actual analysis, we will assume you are both a troll, and one who doesn't know anything about football.

No Spencer, if i refused to respond to those questions it means many things, but mainly:

1- I chose to ignore responding to them or i simply dont want to
2- I already responded to them but you werent paying attention
3- The answers i gave did not match your expectations and you re looking for other details in that case you have to be more clear and specific.


If you ask me which one from the above is true, i pick 2. I have already responded to all your questions and queries, you guys just cant see that.

huntsman wrote:Show me a list of what you're claiming. Unless GK experts are wrong, there is no such list.

rwo power wrote:

huntsman wrote:Show me a list of what you're claiming. Unless GK experts are wrong, there is no such list.

Actually, there is: http://www.iffhs.de

TetraHydroC 10 wrote:when will you learn?

VivaStPauli wrote:Seriously, comparing Kahn to Casillas is like comparing Baggio to Walcott.

diptiman wrote:

VivaStPauli wrote:Seriously, comparing Kahn to Casillas is like comparing Baggio to Walcott.

that would be comparing kahn to neuer

kahn can be elevated to baggio's status because he was so good.. but seriously iker - walcott? i dont have to list his achievements and his personal influence in winning so many trophies both for club and nt do i ? i mean you may think that kahn is better, but iker is not some unproven smuck playing in the sunday league.. he is one of the best goal keepers of this generation and i rate him above kahn but thats my opinion and that doesnt mean kahn was any less of a great goal keeper

Surag.Blueguy wrote:Fair to say that Spain wouldnt have won Euro and World Cup if not for Casillas

His leadership alone brought so much to the table.Casillas deserved to be in top 3 of FIFA Ballon D'or ahead of Iniesta and even Messi.How Iniesta finished second in that list that season is beyond me.

Only two goals conceded entire World Cup one was due to a defensive lapse i think from Pique(Not entirely sure).

And the crucial penalties he saved against Paraguay ?That proved so vital in the end.

Not to forget his one on one saves against the Dutch in the final.He was as crucial for Spain as Buffon was for Italy in 2006.

I cannot bring stats but having watched him he has an incredible record in penalty shoot-outs as well dare i say better than Buffon.

Blunders?I think every keeper commits blunders.I can easily point out some of the blunders he has committed most recently against Milan 2 years ago.And not to mention Real Madrid had a really fragile and untrustworthy backline then but it has all changed with Mou in charge.

If you keep picking on his errors now and then quite frankly you are speaking like a really ignorant person who does nothing but judge a players quality by viewing youtube videos.

I have huge amount of respect for Casillas.He rightfully is Spain's and Real Madrid's captain.

But i would rank Buffon and Kahn slightly above him.All three are legendary keepers in their own right.