Alright Barca fans where's the hate?

harhar11 wrote:

RealGunner wrote:they took arsenal to court because they wanted money from the deal. They did not care about cesc at all. They were upset that all the money they spent on cesc with training etc was wasted.

Once again, barca had FORBIDDEN team to scout him. Does that sound to you like he was not wanted by barca?

ehm you also had forbidden teams to scout many other players, but apart from messi, most either left by themselves or barca sold them. This doesnt mean anything

ali8775 wrote:

harhar11 wrote:

RealGunner wrote:they took arsenal to court because they wanted money from the deal. They did not care about cesc at all. They were upset that all the money they spent on cesc with training etc was wasted.

Once again, barca had FORBIDDEN team to scout him. Does that sound to you like he was not wanted by barca?

I don't see anyone "fuming" over toral bro

Thanks for proving my point, if barca didn't want fabregas and just wanted the money then how come they aint taking arsenal to court for toral?

RealGunner wrote:

harhar11 wrote:

RealGunner wrote:they took arsenal to court because they wanted money from the deal. They did not care about cesc at all. They were upset that all the money they spent on cesc with training etc was wasted.

Once again, barca had FORBIDDEN team to scout him. Does that sound to you like he was not wanted by barca?

ehm you also had forbidden teams to scout many other players, but apart from messi, most either left by themselves or barca sold them. This doesnt mean anything

ehm, then why didn'tbarca take those team to the court?

No offence man but don't be thick, barca knew that fabregas was really talented and wanted to keep him thats why they went so long to try and keep him..

harhar11 wrote:if barca didn't want fabregas and just wanted the money then how come they aint taking arsenal to court for toral?

Because Arsenal paid for Toral before you got the courts involved. And the fact that the man behind the transfer is Guardiola's brother

ali8775 wrote:
I don't know if that was sarcastic, if it wasn't then your welcome

I understand this, and I do NOT dislike any Barca fan because of what their club does if thats what your trying to imply

Well surely you also agree Barcelona are wrong right now don't you ?

When did i say otherwise my friend?

fabregas has broken the record for the longest ever loan spell with his 8 years at arsenal

Lex wrote:

harhar11 wrote:if barca didn't want fabregas and just wanted the money then how come they aint taking arsenal to court for toral?

Because Arsenal paid for Toral before you got the courts involved. And the fact that the man behind the transfer is Guardiola's brother

Then how come, rosell was still angry with you lot? AS I said, barca really wanted to keep fabregas otherwise they wouldn't take arsenal to the court, just like they didn't take liverpool and man utd the the court when they took 2 players that they didn't want to keep..

harhar11 wrote:

RealGunner wrote:

harhar11 wrote:

RealGunner wrote:they took arsenal to court because they wanted money from the deal. They did not care about cesc at all. They were upset that all the money they spent on cesc with training etc was wasted.

Once again, barca had FORBIDDEN team to scout him. Does that sound to you like he was not wanted by barca?

ehm you also had forbidden teams to scout many other players, but apart from messi, most either left by themselves or barca sold them. This doesnt mean anything

ehm, then why didn'tbarca take those team to the court?

No offence man but don't be thick, barca knew that fabregas was really talented and wanted to keep him thats why they went so long to try and keep him..

can you not read properly ?

they left themselves and some barca sold them Why would barcelona take man utd to court when they sold him to them themselves ?

and no you didnt went long to try and keep cesc. You did not offer him the game time insurance he wanted, you could have kept him with just 1 barcelona man giving him his words but why would you ? xavi was there and cossu was there. Thats the reason u sold pique as well because you couldnt offer him insurance.

u sure u are a barcelona fan ?

Nothing we can do about Toral right now. He wants to move to the PL. I am sure Barcelona are annoyed as hell but Toral wants out.

When he wants to come back, then we will see! :p

What do you mean "forbidden" ? You're using that word very loosely. Arsenal scouted him during the World Cup he participated in...how was that wrong?

kiranr wrote:He wants to move to the PL

So did Fabregas

harhar11 wrote:

Lex wrote:

harhar11 wrote:if barca didn't want fabregas and just wanted the money then how come they aint taking arsenal to court for toral?

Because Arsenal paid for Toral before you got the courts involved. And the fact that the man behind the transfer is Guardiola's brother

Then how come, rosell was still angry with you lot? AS I said, barca really wanted to keep fabregas otherwise they wouldn't take arsenal to the court, just like they didn't take liverpool and man utd the the court when they took 2 players that they didn't want to keep..

you didnt take man utd and liverpool to court because you sold the players yourself ? and liverpool paid his training fees and man utd paid the transfer fee before hand

you sure ur a barcelona fan ?

kiranr wrote:Nothing we can do about Toral right now. He wants to move to the PL. I am sure Barcelona are annoyed as hell but Toral wants out.

When he wants to come back, then we will see! :p

finally someone who knows his facts. Teach harhar some of your clubs history etc please, looks like he is new lol

Lex wrote:

kiranr wrote:He wants to move to the PL

So did Fabregas

no he didnt. he just wanted to play first team football.

Lex wrote:

kiranr wrote:He wants to move to the PL

So did Fabregas

Fabregas wanted gametime. He was getting that at Arsenal. Toral just wants to move to the PL.

Barca fan's stop fighting the good fight.

We are not good ffs, we are the evil( satan's spawn if you will)

Just look at our kit it's so evil it gives me chill's



Also Super Floren depicted Barca as Evil and Madrid as good before one of the Clasico's what more proof do you need?

I am sure Pep was behind the colour change, LOL!

He wanted to move is the point, really. No-one forced him, no-one kidnapped him, no-one lasso'd him from a speeding train headed for England, nothing of the sort happened

RealGunner wrote:

harhar11 wrote:

RealGunner wrote:

harhar11 wrote:

RealGunner wrote:they took arsenal to court because they wanted money from the deal. They did not care about cesc at all. They were upset that all the money they spent on cesc with training etc was wasted.

Once again, barca had FORBIDDEN team to scout him. Does that sound to you like he was not wanted by barca?

ehm you also had forbidden teams to scout many other players, but apart from messi, most either left by themselves or barca sold them. This doesnt mean anything

ehm, then why didn'tbarca take those team to the court?

No offence man but don't be thick, barca knew that fabregas was really talented and wanted to keep him thats why they went so long to try and keep him..

can you not read properly ?

they left themselves and some barca sold them Why would barcelona take man utd to court when they sold him to them themselves ?

and no you didnt went long to try and keep cesc. You did not offer him the game time insurance he wanted, you could have kept him with just 1 barcelona man giving him his words but why would you ? xavi was there and cossu was there. Thats the reason u sold pique as well because you couldnt offer him insurance.

u sure u are a barcelona fan ?

And then why didn't barca sell fabregas if they just wanted money? It seems that you are saying that barca has no problem selling highly rated youth player if only they get some money, then why didn't arsenal just pay barca instead of risking the chance that barca takes them to court?

And are you sure that barca sold them because they wanted to?
Barca president slams English clubs for poaching youngsters

Laporta seems pretty angry over the whole situation. It seems as barca only sold them because they couldn't keep them..

kiranr wrote:

Lex wrote:

kiranr wrote:He wants to move to the PL

So did Fabregas

Fabregas wanted gametime. He was getting that at Arsenal. Toral just wants to move to the PL.

Are you sure about that, I mean it makes no sense. Wouldn''t it be easier to get game time at barca at the time. Arsenal just went a whole season unbeated and had arguably the best midfield in england at the time, while barca hadn't won a trophy in over 6 years and then team was in arguably its worse state ever... Logically, it would be easier getting game time at barca than arsenal...

kiranr wrote:

ali8775 wrote:
I don't know if that was sarcastic, if it wasn't then your welcome

I understand this, and I do NOT dislike any Barca fan because of what their club does if thats what your trying to imply

Well surely you also agree Barcelona are wrong right now don't you ?

When did i say otherwise my friend?

I'm just making sure, my troll senses are damaged today
:lol!:

And then why didn't barca sell fabregas if they just wanted money? It seems that you are saying that barca has no problem selling highly rated youth player if only they get some money, then why didn't arsenal just pay barca instead of risking the chance that barca takes them to court?

And are you sure that barca sold them because they wanted to?
Barca president slams English clubs for poaching youngsters

Laporta seems pretty angry over the whole situation. It seems as barca only sold them because they couldn't keep them..

because he just turned 16? what fee was there to be paid ? we were unaware of any fifa law by that time that we had to pay for anything. He joined Barcelona ( la masia) at the age of 13/14 and we bought him at the age of 16. When we did found out there was a fee we had to pay , We did not dispute it and paid all the money we were due. We could have objected the decision which we did not.

and no im not implying that barcelona sell talented players for money. thats you thinking in a wrong way.

and dont change the topic, poaching youngsters and under 18 contract law etc are different matter

Wenger, the kind, promised Fabregas gametime while we must have told him to wait for his turn considering there was Xavi and Iniesta ahead of him.

kiranr wrote:Wenger, the kind, promised Fabregas gametime while we must have told him to wait for his turn considering there was Xavi and Iniesta ahead of him.

xavi and cocu. Iniesta was still quite young

yeah, but he was still ahead and very highly rated!

RealGunner wrote:

And then why didn't barca sell fabregas if they just wanted money? It seems that you are saying that barca has no problem selling highly rated youth player if only they get some money, then why didn't arsenal just pay barca instead of risking the chance that barca takes them to court?

And are you sure that barca sold them because they wanted to?
Barca president slams English clubs for poaching youngsters

Laporta seems pretty angry over the whole situation. It seems as barca only sold them because they couldn't keep them..

because he just turned 16? what fee was there to be paid ? we were unaware of any fifa law by that time that we had to pay for anything. He joined Barcelona ( la masia) at the age of 13/14 and we bought him at the age of 16. When we did found out there was a fee we had to pay , We did not dispute it and paid all the money we were due. We could have objected the decision which we did not.

and no im not implying that barcelona sell talented players for money. thats you thinking in a wrong way.

and dont change the topic, poaching youngsters and under 18 contract law etc are different matter

You do know that barca didn't sell pique, man utd did the same thing you did.

From wikipedia

Piqué started his career in FC Barcelona's youth teams as a defensive midfielder, but before he signed his first professional contract with the club, he decided to join Manchester United. The Premier League side did not pay a fee for Piqué as he was too young to have a professional contract.

And I know that anyone can edit wikipedia pages, but Piqué went to man utd when he was 17 and barca can't give professional contract to players who are younger than 18. So this time I belive in wikipedia..

As I said again, if barca only wanted money then how come they didn't take man utd to court for doing THE EXACT SAME THING that arsenal did?